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Hi!  This old safe was found in the basement of a recently purchased home located outside Buffalo, NY. The safe is locked and no combination has been located. The markings on the front are 'Herring's Pt' above left wheel and 'Safe, N.Y.' Above right wheel (facing safe)  the door has a dial engraved 'Cary Safe Co., Buffalo, NY' along with patent date Sept 1890, though that is hard to make out.  The door has decorative work that appears consistent with other Cary safes I've seen, however the hinges are not camel back style.  I've attached a pic of the front of the safe and will email additional photos. I'm interested in the age of the safe and any other info you might be able to provide about the maker, as well as a recommendation for a safe technician who might be able to open the safe . Thanks!!!

Hi Gabrielle,

The safe is a Herring - NOT a Cary.      It appears that at some time in the past either the safe was locked up and/or repairs were made with a replacement dial installed.    Obviously the dial is NOT correct for this safe.     This also brings up the question as to whether or not the lock was also changed out.

As to providing you with the name of some one in your area, I would be more than happy to, however I will need to narrow down where the safe is located so I can offer you someone nearby.     Please provide me with your zipcode, and I'll see who I know and/or would recommend.


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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)


Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.


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