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Can you assist in getting into 3 old floor safe I picked up cheap  I don't not have the combinations The are a drawer type safe only markings is a weight tab 110lbs each    Thanks I'm advance

Hi Jason,

There are no factory combinations for these containers.   they were delivered to the Military set on the combo 50-25-50.    When the military received them they would then change the combinations.

The rule is, when the military is done with them they are SUPPOSED to be set BACK to 50-25-50, however that rarely happens.  If you picked them up cheap, then I would assume that they are locked up with no combination.

If you try this combination and the containers don't open, then you will need to contact a local safe company to have them opened up.    As far as the lock and protection around the lock, these Mosler "black label" GSA containers are considered equivalent to a TL-15 safe to open.   This does NOT mean that the container is equivalent to a TL-15 safe, only that the lock is protected in that manner.

In general cost to open and recover or reset the combination for locked up GSA Black label containers is going to be in the $750 to $900 per container range.

If you picked them all up from the same source, once you get the first one open, you can check the combination that is set on it, to see if the others are the same.

Check your local yellow pages under "safes & vaults" for local safe companies.   If you don't have a local safe company, let me know where you are located (zip code) and I'll see who I might know and/or recommend in your area.

Sorry I can't be of more help.  


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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)


Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.


44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

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2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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