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Howdy Terry,
I have a R&D safe works guns safe large size roughly 5.5' x 2' x 3' with a standard dial lock that a locksmith broke into by using a grinder to cut out the dial in a small square pattern around the dial and removed the dial assembly. I can't give much more detail as I am just not very knowledgeable of safes. The handle still operates the bolts just fine and I am wondering if you can tell me what my chances are of getting this thing rebuilt with an electronic lock system s I I can secure my guns and such in it when I get them back. Appreciate your time on this one if I can answer any questions just ask and I will do so to the best of my ability. Thanks again.

Hi Brian,

Hopefully you didn't pay that hack for ruining your safe????   "THIS" is ONE of the main reasons that I NEVER recommend using locksmiths for safe work.

As far as getting it rebuilt - YES it can be repaired, however the question comes to mind - what are your metal working / welding skills???

If you can fabricate and weld then you can repair it fairly inexpensively.   If you can't then you will need to find a safe company that has the skills.   Unfortunately the cost MAY far out weigh the value of the safe.

This hack locksmith not only charged you (I mean ripped you off) to open the safe, he did no repairs and left you with a badly damaged safe, which in the end MAY cost you $$$'s for a new safe.

I would be happy to answer some more specific questions just keep in mind I'm not going to teach you metal working, welding or safe repairs.   

My first recommendation would be to check with local safe companies to get a repair cost.   If you don't have one let me know where you are located (zipcode) and I'll see who I might know and/or recommend in your area.

Wish you had contacted me first on this one!  


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Terry V. Andreasen (Andy)


Safe and Vault related Questions; Antique Safe Repair and Restoration; With over 42 years in the Safe & Vault industry, if I can't answer your question I know where to get the answer. Current Project: Restoration of an Ely Norris Cannonball Safe from the early 1900's. Will answer Safe & Vault related questions concerning age, value, restoration, moving, opening & repairing, parts, operation and history. Note: It is not my intention to teach you to open safes or to provide information which may aid in the unlawful opening of a safe. I will not give out drill points or information which I deem inappropriate.


44 years in the Safe & Vault Industry. Owner and Service Manager for one of the largest Safe & Vault companies on the West Coast. Graduate of Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing, Safe lock Manipulation and Safe Deposit Lock Courses. Graduate of Locksmith Institute. Certified Instructor for the California Locksmith Association teaching Basic and Advanced Lock Servicing, Basic Safe opening and Repairing. Factory Trained by AMSEC, LORD Safes, LeFebure, Mosler, KabaMas, LaGard and Sargent & Greenleaf Author of "The Coffee Table Guide to Antique Safes".

SafeCrackers International and the National Antique Safe Association Safe & Vault Technicians Association (SAVTA)

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Graduate of Locksmith Institute 1972 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Servicing 1974 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Lock Manipulation 1975 Graduate Lockmasters Safe Deposit Lock Servicing 1985 Instructor Certified - California Locksmith Association - 1985 Factory trained by AMSEC, MAJOR, STAR, Johnson-Pacific, Kaba-MAS, Allied-Gary, ISM, Lord, Brown Safe, EXL, Mosler, Diebold.

Awards and Honors
2009 - 2015 - Listed in AllExperts Top 50 Experts. All Expert Categories - Safes & Security Containers, Locksmithing, Antique Safes. Retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer (CW4), with 39 years of total service. With numerous awards from Vietnam, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. US Navy - 1971-1981 US Army Reserve 1984-2013 US Army Retired

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US Secret Service, FBI, BATF, Local Law enforcment agencies, Diebold, Hamilton Pacific, Red Hawk Int., Chubb International, Bank of America, Wells Fargo Bank, Mechanics Bank, El Dorado Savings Bank, many Credit unions and smaller banks. McDonalds, Togos, BurgerKing, TacoBell, Carls Jr. FoodMaxx, SaveMart, Lucky's, Albertson's, Raley's, Safeway, NobHill, Bell Markets, PW Markets. Great America, Century Theatres, Cinemark Theatres, UA Cinemas, and many homeowners and small businesses. Provide warranty service for lock and safe manufactures. Service Area is Northern California (Fresno to Oregon and Western Nevada)

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