Lutherans/Speaking in Tongues
Darlene wrote at 2007-10-13 01:59:15
I have the gift of speaking in tongues..There are more than one way to use tongues...one is self edification...Paul said I wish you all spoke with tongues, so there must be a blessing in it.
They seem foolish, a lot of gibberish...but God said I take foolish things to confound the wise...
Raymo wrote at 2015-10-11 14:17:59
Speaking in tongues is an external manifestation in this world of the internal presence and reality of the Holy Spirit within the believer in Jesus. There are 9 manifestations listed in the Bible. (I Cor 12) When a Christian believes in Jesus and knows that he is their personal savior, (and believes he has risen from the dead) they have entered into the new covenant in his blood, and have spiritual gifts available to them, having the indwelling of the Holy Spirit of God.
God gives to us of that which he is, and this is our gift from him, the holy spirit, and he (the Spirit of God) (I'm capitalizing or not just because it's seen in my KVJ that way and I guess I got used to it.) does his work within us according to the will of God, which is in Christ Jesus. God, Jesus (the Son of God), and the Holy Spirit are what we have that we can depend upon as always being holy and right, all the time, and will never be otherwise. Is there anything else like that? Nothing I know of. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit reign together forever in heaven, and do their work here upon earth, the Holy Spirit being the means whereby we see and hear from God and from the Lord Jesus Christ, for the most part. (Let's not put God in boxes. He will break them all.)
The gifts and manifestations of the Spirit are accessed by the believer by faith. Sometimes they are simply given, but for the most part believers earnestly desire them and they are received by faith, which comes by hearing the word of God.
Many who speak in tongues have been a part of a group of believers who also speak in tongues and witness it as a common practice, many times, every time they meet. In some groups, someone will be asked to speak in tongues, and interpret. He will speak in a tongue (almost always an unknown language to the people present, being a language of men or of angels, but it could be that someone there would know and be familiar with the language. This has happened at times and has been to them a sign, that it was genuine tongues. This happened this way at Pentecost of Acts 2, the people present understood the languages. Likely each apostle spoke in a different tongue, or whoever, depending on our interpretation of this part of scripture. I tend to go along with the fact that it was the 12 who first spoke in tongues.
When we speak in tongues, we are the ones who do the speaking. We are the doers. The Holy Spirit is the giver. If we do not speak, there will be no sound. As we speak, the Spirit of God gives, and this happens as fast or slow as we speak. As we speak, what to say is given by the Spirit of God, and it flows as a river, from the Spirit of God that is within us.
We can speak in tongues silently if we like. When we do that, we can "hear" in our mind the sound of the words, just as if we were to sound them out audibly. It's like we were reading a book, sounding out each word in our minds as we read. That's what it sounds like, but we are not reading, we are speaking to ourselves, (really to God) by speaking in tongues.
One who speaks in tongues can read a book while they speak in tongues, but it's like two languages going on at the same time, like hearing someone in the background speaking while we are speaking, or like what can happen with our computers sometimes if we get two sites on at the same time which both have audio, so many times we do not speak in tongues when we read, even though we could.
We can speak in tongues and listen to someone talking to us, without too much distraction, even though in our mind we hear the sound of the words we speak in tongues. We can speak in tongues while we drive, while we work, but if our work is demanding lots of concentration we might decide not to do so at that time, but we could if we felt we needed to pray to God.
We may speak in tongues when we minister to people, except that if we are speaking, we can not be speaking in tongues also, as our "speaking mechanics, that is our natural speaking functions and the parts of the body and mind, will be at work, occupied already.
If we are among so many who understand speaking in tongues, practice it, and interpret, or prophesy (which in a believer's meeting is basically the same as interpreting what we have spoken in a tongue, these two, interpretation of tongues, and prophecy, being basically equal when used for edification, by way of exhortation and comfort of the people present, and it will be in the language of the majority of the people present. (I suppose.... if we do naturally speak and know that same language) But, if we are among so many who know and practice speaking in tongues, knowing what the Bible teaches about it, there should be such an atmosphere of faith around, and so much life of the Spirit going on around us, that we too should become excited, interested, and desiring to speak in tongues also. This is what happens, and it has been known to spread this way, sometimes like a fire spreads, but usually not as fast.
Sometimes these things take time, but it does tend to spread.
Be of good comfort, for it is the Father's good will to give to you of the Spirit of God. (the Bible teaches) Know that he is ever present with you, and lovingly cares for you. As you trust in him with all your heart, he will direct you.
raymo wrote at 2015-10-17 00:06:41
The way I had learned to walk in the "worship manifestations" (that's what we called them) was as I saw it practiced in home groups.
The one leading the meeting would at some time during the meeting (usually after singing of worship songs and prayers)ask someone by name to please speak in tongues and interpret, or ask for someone who feels inspired to do so, to speak in tongues and interpret.
In our church, if one did not have the faith to interpret, he was not to do the speaking in tongues in a meeting. (where it was to be interpreted) If someone wanted to give it a try that would be encouraged, but if he did not bring forth an interpretation, or simply stumbled far too much, (usually the problem is that they did not walk out in faith and try, but chose to remain silent) then they were not ready and likely wouldn't be allowed to try again unless someone had been working with them in "believer's meetings" where they gained some experience with those manifestations of the Spirit.