About Bonnie Mullen Expertise I`ve been a Beatles fan since I was 10 years old. That was in 1964 so I`ve had quite a long time to get good at it. And by the age of 14 I was madly in love with Paul McCartney. Over the years I have compiled a vast library of books and magazines not to mention of course the music, first in vinyl and finally (I hope) on cd. Both on the Beatles as a group and esp on Paul alone. I also have many books that concern the other Beatles alone as well. I am best with info about the lads themselves but what ever the question I will endeavor to back my answer with a source. (book - interview tape etc)
I'm also a McCartney's fan, but not an expert at all.
I know he produced Mary Hopkins' "Those were the days". I know that this song is a cover of a russian song. Could you please let me know the name of this russian song and who wrote it?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Jose
Answer Hi Jose,
Well, that it appears is a good question. I knew the writer's name was Gene Raskin, but I didn't really know anything else about him or the song.
On doing a search I found information that it was indeed a traditional Russian folk/gypsy song. The lyrics have been adapted naturally.
Below I will put a url to a very informative site I found that I hope will be of more help to you. I will also cut and paste the text from that site in case you are unable to go have a look. Do go look for yourself if you can. It's a pretty good website.
Ukranian or Russian, a traditional folk song adapted by Gene Raskin, or a brand new song written by Paul McCartney just for Mary Hopkin.
Many myths have grown around this melodic song, here on this page I will try and trace the history of this beautiful, piece of music.
If you were to do a search on the Internet for "Those were the days", you would come across very many translations, and different titles. I am sure there are many songs on the Internet that have been translated into numerous languages, but I think 'Days' almost tops the charts!! so to speak.
I have been trying to trace this songs history for many years, and on my travels have come across so many contradictions I am not sure of its true origins, but here is what I have found out.
The origins of the melody appear to be strongly claimed by the Russians and Russian gypsy's consider it their song. The name of this song seems to be "DOROGO' DLINNOYU" and translated means .....
"By a long road (or way)" or
"Along a long road (or way)" or
"On a long way...
Some sources claim it was written by two Russian composers B Fomin (music) and K. Podrevsky (lyrics) at the end of 19th century or in the beginning of 20th century.
( Notice the spelling below is slightly different, I cannot confirm which is correct!)
DOROGOJ DLINNOYU
Ehali na trojke s bubencami,
A vdali mel'kali ogon'ki. Mne b sejchas, sokoliki, za Vami,
Dushu by razveyat' ot toski.
Dorogoj dlinnoyu, da noch'yu lunnoyu,
Da s pesnej toj, chto vdal' letit zvenya,
Is toj starinnoyu s toj semistrunnoyu,
Chto po nocham tak muchala menya...
Tak zhivya bez radosti, bez muki,
Pomnyu ya ushedshie goda, I tvoi serebryanye ruki V trojke,
uletevshej navsegda... Dorogoj dlinnoyu...
Dni begut, pechali umnozhaya, Mne tak trudno proshloe zabyt'.
Kak-nibud' odnazhdy, dorogaya,
Vy menya svezete horonit'.
Dorogoj dlinnoyu...
And now - the translation. There are only three verses in the Russian song. Words in brackets are not in the text but are implied.
As sung by A.Vertinskiy:
(We) Used to ride in a three-horse carriage with bells (tinkling)
And lights were blinking in the distance
I wish I could go with you (again), falcons
To clear my soul off all my grief
Refrain:
(Going down) that long road on a moonlight night with that
song that is flying away, ringing
And with that old seven-string one (guitar)
That troubled me so much at nights
Living such life without joy and torture,
I recollect the years that passed by
And your silver hands
in that three-horse carriage which went away for good...
Refrain: (same as above)
Days are passing by, multiplying my sorrows,
It's so hard for me to forget the past
And one day the day will come, my dear,
When you are going to bury me...
Refrain: (as above)
I believe some explanation is required. Three-horse carriages were very popular in Russia in the last century. Bells here are not church bells, but small pieces fastened to the harness over horses' heads to produce that beautiful tinkling sound. 'Falcons' means not birds but 'young and energetic people'. Seven-string guitar was very popular in Russia and other East European countries till the beginning of pop-music era in mid-60-ies. We still have many artists(especially gypsies) here who play 7-string guitars. 'Torture' in the 2nd verse is of course 'sweet torture' which is brought about by love.
My Thanks for the above to
Igor Matveyev
igor_matveyev@mail.ru
Alexander Vertinsky
The first known recording of the song was by Alexander Vertinsky in the 1920's, I found various midi files which claimed to be "The song" but must admit I couldnt really hear the melody that we have grown to love.. I then eventually found a song on a Russian site called "There were days" ("DOROGO' DLINNOYU") again credited to Fomin & Podrevsky, and sung by Rada and Nikolay Volshaninovs here I first heard the unmistakable melody of "Those Were The Days" I was over the moon, I am having problems inserting this song as a midi etc, so if you click on the above names and you have real player you can play the song.
I discovered also during my research that there is another song, Russian title given as "Darogoi Dli Mayou", calling itself "Dear to Me", this too is supposed to be a version of "Dorogo Dlinnoyu", this is where it all starts to get very confusing..
Below is an example of many kind emails I have had from so many people helping with my research into this, not one email, gave the same explanation...
"Dear Pat,
The song "Those Were The Days" is an english version of the russian song "Dorogoj dlinnoju". That means, the music is the same, but the lyrics are completely different from "Dorogoj dlinnoju". The author of the russian lyrics is unknown
This song was (and is) very popular in Russia and it was
performed by many other singers except Vertinsky.
Truly Yours,
Mikhail"
More work I think is needed to research these facts...
Below is another email from Gregory Ofman who has been invaluable in helping with background information, this is really interesting.
"Dear Pat,
I visited your site. You did a lot of research. Good job. Thank you for mentioning me on your site. I just want to tell you the following: I took the names of the authors from an insert of an audio tape "Famous songs of Russian Gypsy", where this song is beautifully performed by Nikolay Erdenko. This song was also in the repertoire of such well known soviet singers as Nani Bregvadze and Edita Pieha. Many outside of the Soviet Union became familiar with this song also due to the American movie "The Brothers Karamazov" (1958), where it was sung by Maria Schell. The French singer Dalida sang this song with the title of "Quelli erano giorni" You can listen to the last one here: http://www.geocities.com/~ofman/waves/dalida.ra
Regards, Gregory "
(Has anyone heard a song called "Mi Lord" sung by Edith Piaf , now there's a song with a 'tune' that sounds like "Those Were The Days" or does "Days" sound like "Milord" Mmm, if you go to this site MILORD there is a midi playing the tune, not Piaf of course but it will give you an idea of the melody..very "DOROGO' DLINNOYU" or "DAYS" I think...)
The lyrics to the song that we have come to now know and love as "Those Were The Days" were written by an American composer Gene Raskin in the early 1960's. The first known recording I am aware of was by the "Limelighters" in 1963' It has been covered by many artists since,"Sandie Shaw" (now whatever happened to her version) and more recently the "Three Tenors" did an incredible performance of the song.
While I was searching the net I found a copy of this sheet music, I contacted Francie to ask If I could use it and she very kindly agreed.
A note from Francie Schwartz:
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Gene is an old and very dear friend of my family. I have not
only the sheet music, but the cover art signed by Gene himself. I would be happy to help in any way I can. Gene told me that he performed the song in cabaret when he and his wife Frances were young, and it was based on a classic Russian folk tune. Dick James brought the song to Paul for Mary Hopkin, and I happened to be there when he came to Abbey Road to give it to him.
Francie Schwartz
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The story of how Paul McCartney came across the song is probably known by most people now, but for those who are not aware here it is..
Paul heard Gene and Francesca Raskin singing the song in a club called the "Blue Lamp" in London in the mid 60's, and after 'discovering' Mary Hopkin he remembered this song and suggested it to her, the rest as they say is history, although he did apparently offer the song to others Donovan for example but nobody thought it suited them, that is until Mary came along.
The songs success after Mary recorded it was nothing short of phenomenal, It became a number 1 hit all around the world for her, and was recorded in English, German, Spanish, Italian and French, (I have some of these foreign lyrics on my site), and by the end of the first year of its release it had sold over 5 million records....
The arranger of "Days" was "Richard Hewson" and below is an axtract of a wonderful interview with him explaining the work behind the recording.
THRILLINGTON
By Mat Hurwitz
During the early summer of 1968, Apple was preparing its first batch of singles, which was to include a disc by a new discovery of Paul's named Mary Hopkin. Paul recorded Hopkin in June of that year performing a lovely tune he'd heard a few years back in a club by Gene Raskin, "Those Were the Days." Paul decided it was to be scored with some strings, and henceforth turned to his new A & R man, Peter Asher, to come up with an arranger.
"Apple was a funny old place," says Hewson. "It was very haphazard. Nobody really knew what anybody else was doing! Peter didn't know anything about arrangers. All he knew was he knew me, and that I'd been to the Guild Hall and studied classical music. And he thought, 'Okay, so Paul wants some orchestra on this. Richard probably knows how to write classical orchestra arrangements, let's try him.' That's how I got the job, cause they didn't know anybody else. That was lucky for me. If they'd looked around, they could probably have found a real arranger."
It was Hewson's first working job out of college, and would turn into a multi-million selling hit around the world. Hewson actually began working a few years earlier, "moonlighting" as a session player at EMI to make "pocket money" while still a student. "I used to get pulled out occasionally to do sessions, because I had a few connections." [One of his employers at that time, oddly enough, was George Martin!]
To give "Those Were the Days" that "old country" feel, Hewson concoted a simple arrangement consisting of an acoustic guitar, upright bass, tuba, banjo, drums, a clarinet section, violins & violas, trumpets and an Hungarian instrument called a "cembalon". "It was an unusual instrument played with hammers, like a dulcimer. There was only one guy in England who could play one - one of my professors, Gilbert Webster. That's who's on that recording." The song was topped off by the addition of a boys choir.
Hewson began working regularly for Apple through 1969, scoring Hopkin's album, Post Card, as well as her next single, "Goodbye," written and produced by Paul. The latter featured "all violas, 12 of them in fact, with no other classical instruments. That was a first!"
For now the story ends, but I will keep searching...
