Methodists/Women as pastors?

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Terri wrote at 2007-10-04 00:56:42
The old testament, as well as the N/T manifests the equally high value and dignity which God attached to the roles of both men and women (Genesis 1:26-27, 2:18; Galatians 3:28) Both Old & New Testaments also affirm the principle of male headship in the family and in the covenant community (Gen 2:18, Ephesians 5:21-33; Colossians 3:18-19; 1 Tim. 2:11-15)


Drew McDannold wrote at 2011-02-06 16:02:17
With respect, Rev Olewiler's response is a mishandling of Scripture.  He fails to expound, or even acknowledge, the fundamental difference between essence and function.  Men and women are essentially the same, having the same value and standing before God, but functionally different, being created for different roles.  All ARE created in God's image, and in Christ there IS neither male nor female - but these are statements of essence, not of function.  Throughout his letters, Paul consistently reinforces the idea that men and women have different functions.  Man is called to be the head of the woman (1 Cor 11:3) - referring to his role or function - so Paul's admonition that a woman shall not teach or have authority over a man underscores the different roles God designed man and woman to fulfill.  


Tyler Whitley wrote at 2011-04-29 12:00:56
I read the verses and passages you have mentioned and it brought about a few questions:  Galatians 3:27-29 is speaks about being "Abraham's seed, heirs according to the promise", "all one in me Christ Jesus" and "For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ". My question is in what way does this place women as a spiritual authority over men as to be a pastor?



The Greetings from Paul to Phoebe, Prisca and Aquila in Romans 16: 1-4 i also do not find the significance or the factor that states women as being eligible according to the will of God to be pastors (head of the church and thus authority over men). I see how women have helped men in their spiritual walk and greatly so...



My last question is, if these do contradict 1 Timothy 2: 12 and it seems like Paul's reasoning for not allowing " a woman to teach or have authority over a man, but to remain quiet" is not talking about women not being allowed to teach by any means but rather not to teach over a man or have spiritual authority over a man. Clearly the Bible encourages women to teach women and men to teach men, but could this be referring to counsel of men to men and women to women and if so why does it mention what it does in verses 13-15?



This is a topic that I have much interest in understanding, that I am trying to find the answer to and I await your response.


jason wrote at 2012-06-10 22:23:40
dear tim,



you are so wrong on this, us being created in gods image has nothing to do with what paul said. There were no female priests in the old testament....as far as neither male or female...this is earth not heaven. So you are listening to scholars....ie..pharisees...ie satan...that it wasnt paul but a follower?   I pray for you right now in jesus name may your scales be removed.



yours in christ



jason


Tammy wrote at 2013-01-12 03:40:16
The role of women is also clearly delineated.  Older women are to teach younger women to obey and love their husbands.  Women were also to teach children in the Word.  As of 13 years of age, a male becomes a man.  



When women are called fellow apostles, even then the women were ministering to women.  Women were involved with evangelism, which is not the same as teaching.  



Remember, the reason God says that a man is to have teaching authority is because man was created first, the head of woman and most importantly, was not deceived.  If you read the scripture and the argument Paul gives, this is the true, underlying reason why men are to have the sole responsibility of teaching other men.  This is so simple!  Why do you prevert God's Word and the exposition on it.


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The Rev. William E. Olewiler

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United Methodist church structure and doctrine. Science and religion. Christian Education and the Sunday School. Religion and race. Women in the church. United Methodist pastor for 22 years. Member, commissions on Religion and Race and Status and Role of Women. Masters in Divinity and Religious Education.

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Ordained deacon and elder, United Methodist Church. District and conference leadership.

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Bachelor of Arts, Political Science, George Washington University, Washington DC Master of Arts, Political Science, Brown University, Providence RI Master of Arts, Teaching Secondary Social Studies, Teachers College/Columbia University, New York NY Master of Divinity, Wesley Theological Seminary, Washington DC Doctor of Ministry, Wesley Theological Seminary, Washington DC

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