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Brian wrote at 2007-06-14 05:23:20
Hi melanie

Well it is not a good idea to comment on something if you don't know anything about whatever it may be, at least take the time to do some research so you can give somewhat of an intelligent answer. Otherwise its probably better to say nothing at all. Just an observation.

MelanieMatheu wrote at 2007-07-27 07:34:51
I'd love to see information on a device that pulls toxins out of someone's body via the feet sitting in a tub of vibrating water! I could find no scientific evidence to support this claim whatsoever, and in my experience with physiology this is simply impossible!

I appreciate your insistence that this device may work in some way, and if you have any scientific evidence other than the observation that brown water resulted from a foot bath in a 3rd world country I am always open to hearing it! Other than that, my area of listed expertise is molecular biology, not pedicure-toxin removal. I politely gave my opinion on your foot machine based on several years of experience and much course-work in the area of physiology.

Do let me know if there is anything proven about this! Since it isn't my area of research it would be great to hear about any new advances from a scientist.

Steve wrote at 2007-12-27 22:49:04
My friend and I tested one of these. We each did the treatment on our feet and the result was very polluted looking water at the end of each treatment. Then we ran the system without anybodys feet in the water. The water looked just as disgusting. Whatever becomes visible in the water is definately a result of the salt and the copper coil in the water.

argonaut wrote at 2009-03-09 22:38:39
Any expert who starts by saying, I have not seen or heard about this device and attempts to give an answer should simply say "Be careful, because I do not know what the device does, I can only guess." Saying it is a hoax without checking it out may sound professional, but it is simply a mask for not having the time or inclination to investigate.

DennyCrane wrote at 2009-05-20 07:08:51

I have recently acquired such a machine, mine sold by a firm named Zion.

I have spent a little time observing the effluent discharge, allowing it to settle before I tossed it out. This was because if I used it to treat others, it would be necessary to note the effluent discharge for differences.

With my personal use, there have been two observations which stood out- first, that the effluent appeared to look like blood. A black sediment settled onto the bottom of the water. There was also a rust colored film which floated until agitated, which then also sank. But the telltale observation was the effluent smelled like iron.

At the demonstration, the color of the effluent didn't seem different from person to person, and there were roughly a dozen going at a time. If the claim is that these are toxins, then why would each persons toxins be the same? I am begging the question here, suggesting that all were blood iron.

It makes sense that ion-charged water might extract iron from the blood. But because I myself am not a chemist and am neither able to analyze the effluent, I cannot confirm my suspicions with any certainty.

I found this page while searching out if the foot bath ionizer might be a hoax.



DennyCrane wrote at 2009-05-20 08:52:01

Taking a clue from the blogger named 'Steve', I too tried my machine without inserting my feet. In place, I submerged a brazing rod connected to a wire, which was grounded to the machine. The 'array' was submerged just as it is in ordinary use.

After a few minutes, the water turned brown, and became increasingly darker over time. The coloration is identical to what is obtained with feet in the water.

I am not a scientist, and as such am unqualified to confirm my findings. But because Ms Melanie Matheu is a qualified scientist, I would like to request that she test such a machine to provide a bonifide study. From my results, I am reasonably sure her results will prove once and for all the ionizer foot bath detox machines do not do what they claim.

What they appear to be is a fancy looking but simple power supply and and crude battery, however expensive they are.

My email inquiries to the vendor regarding the effluent have gone unanswered. By all appearances, Ion detox foot bath machines are a hoax.

What is disappointing is how long these devices have been on the market without being revealed for what they are.

DennyCrane wrote at 2009-05-20 14:27:15
Hi Bloggers-

I'd like to add that in Traditional Chinese Medicine, the feet are recognized as detoxification release areas, which explains, in part, why feet smell bad when covered. This is what led me to believe that the ionization detox foot baths might work to facilitate detoxification.

But when I tested my ionizer, replacing the conductor which would be my feet with a bronze rod and produced the same dark effluent, only then did I realize I'd been tricked by the sales demonstrations.



DennyCrane wrote at 2009-05-20 19:40:57
Hi Bloggers-

The latest development to my ionizer may invalidate my earlier suspicions.

Zion Healing Energy, the vendor from which I'd purchased my unit, has emailed a 2004 scientific research document which a similar ionizer unit, IonCleanse, was used. The documentation includes analysis of ionizer effluent, cites case studies, across varied ailments. The only hangup is that these results employ the IonCleanse unit, which do not reflect the particular Zion ionizer model I have just acquired. But I will hold judgement until after reading this documentation.

More later...


DennyCrane wrote at 2009-05-21 07:55:45
Hi Bloggers-

Okay, I have read the IonCleanse research which was emailed to me by my ionizer vendor, Zion Health Energy. while much of its contents is properly referenced, I was still not able to cross the bridge between the IonCleanse machine and the data supplied in the papers. The language in which it is written suggests its aim is squarely pointed at the consumer, and not scientists. My opinion is that these papers amount to not much more than a sales pitch.

There is also a more recent IonCleanse document available here-

I have also read the highly charged blogs, which are caustic enough to disregard. In the end, I found myself shutting off the noise and listening only to myself.

In my own test, my non-footed trial is indistinguishable from my footed trial. Over time, the sediment in each became a rich red color. However to firmly establish any conclusions, both samples would have to analyzed for their composition. Obviously, I am no scientist, so I can offer no conclusive judgment.

So it boils down to my only tool- my intuition.

I have a slogan I have coined- it goes 'intelligence is over-rated where common sense will suffice.'

For devices which are relatively simple, what justifies their price tags between $1,00 and $3,000? What these devices are is programmed direct current power supplies connected to tow dissimilar metals immersed in water, with timers. And with my vendor, Zion Health Energy- why do they refer to research done on an ionizer of a different make? Is Zion so cheesy as to not even invest for research of their own product?

One need not be a rocket scientist to figure it out.

Oh yes, back to my intuition. I don't feel good about this.

Healing is as much an intuitive art as it is science. My personal attitude is that ALL MEDICINE is PLACEBO effect- if one believes in their therapy, it will work. If one doesn't believe, it will not. So I do not dispute that ion detox machines result positively for their users, and neither do I dispute positive results for medically established therapies. If a person wants to get better, they will. If a person doesn't, they will not.

Simple enough. yes?



kk wrote at 2009-07-02 12:48:02
As a Registered Nurse, I watch these 'demos' of foot baths to remove toxins frequently.  I am amazed as I watch people believing, then purchasing these machines... in addition, they are then promoted by gullible folks in the 'alternative' health fields as 'therapy' and charge for each use.  I am amazed that this device even exists!!! Here is a fairly good article I have found to explain the reactions seen in the water.

Goatman wrote at 2009-08-25 07:27:49
I clean ancient roman coins and recently my boss bought one of these machines, and it is the same principle as a machine you can make to clean dirt off roman's. A transformer from an old device is used, one wire goes to the coin in the water and the other is hooked to a spoon in a glass of salt water. The current running through the salt water eats the dirt off the coins .....But,, the drawback is it errodes the bronze also, The sludge that forms in the bottom of the glass from the bronze is black and green. Iv'e read that the box in the water has 2 metallic rods hooked 2 the wires  and just having it in the salt water with current flowing through it corrodes the metal rods and makes the water turn colors. the color of the water depends on what sort of metal rods that are used in the box in the water../.. Google Foot detox scams and you will be givin all sorts of info on it

anet wrote at 2010-02-08 11:32:24
I purchased one of these machines (ioniser) recently and set about testing the results, collecting the residue/sediment from the ionised foot water of a controlled group, using the same salt level and "treatent" time, and keeping other factors, as far as possible, the same.

I also ran two clean towels through the system -clients 5 and 7 - the electric current passing through the water {which soaked up the towel via capillary action) as soon as this reached the wrist-band and completed the circuit.

I then gave the sediment samples to my sister (a chemical scientist), numbered so that the twelve samples were anonymous, to analyse.

Even though I was disappointed to see the towel water turn a similar reddish-brown-with-some-frothy-scum on top as the other ten human samples, I was still very keen to see the analysis results, to see if there were ANY differences between ANY of the samples.

Well, my sister scored herself a job in the States before she analysed the samples for me and, of course, the samples were lost in the chaos of her move.

So... I'm starting another collection, and I'd like someone to analyse this set of samples for me/us. I'd be happy to work on a team to resolve the issue - as far as I can see the fact that towels and brass rods discolour the water does not mean that there is no physiological response in the body to this process.

And then of course there is the placebo effect, which is valid as a healing tool in its own right. After all, something which offers hope, something to believe in, can unleash a powerful force.

I am a trained reiki practitioner who has experienced some powerful and scientifically unsubstantiated and unbelievable healing events. I remain open - I am currently using the ion cleanse unit as part of my foot-care practice. Certainly the feet are soft and the process is relaxing. My dilemma will be to tell or not to tell my clients (who currently believe in the unit - after all, you can see it working) if the results show that the sediment is the same no-matter what is "cleansed".

Or maybe someone's already done this - I expect the results will be very similar regardless of brand or price. Maybe depending more on the electrode composition - mine are brass and stainless steel, both housed in the 'array' which gets submerged in the foot water.

Why is the world so surface-appearance driven?  

TuckerSnoCat wrote at 2011-05-14 19:11:44
These machines are very effective when used for their primary purpose - removing money from your wallet or purse.

teen wrote at 2011-08-13 19:26:28
I am currently applying for a position selling the Zion bath.  Where can I find hard evidence, proof that the Zion bath truly detoxifies.  I cannot sell or promote something that I truly do not believe in...

S Kunkel wrote at 2012-08-30 21:02:29
Hi everyone, I have tried the ion foot baths recently and I am beginning to believein it because recently  I had received a dose of contrast dye for a ct scan then went for a footbath and the footbath water turned black this time instead of brown. The following day I had a bone marrow biopsy and the doctor gave me a lot of lidocaine for any pain. Afterwards I got another foot bath and it started to turn brown with foam. So I really would like to do more research on this  once and for all , it really seems to be doing something , the water does not just come out brown and where do all the particles come from?

Linda E. wrote at 2012-11-25 05:25:55
Hi.  I tried the foot ionizer at a county fair while they were demonstrating it.  Each person who put their feet in different tubs got different colors in the water and they were all amazed.

However if you really research these machines, you will find out that the colors of the water have more to do with the mineral content in the water than what your feet release.  However, I personally met a woman who claimed she had healed herself of Lupus by doing the foot  bath 3 times a week for one year. I had a very severe reaction at the fair.  I did the bath for 20 minutes and then I got up and walked away.  A few minutes later I had a severe pain on the right side of my body under my ribs.  I was folded over because I could not straighten up.  I walked back to the ionizer stand and told the people what was happening to me.  They handed me a bottle of water and reminded me that drinking water is extremely important. A few minutes after I drank the bottle of water the pain stopped completely.  The liver the big body detoxifier cleans our blood of a lot of stuff including parasites, toxins, metals and other junk,

What the electricity does inside the body is much more important than the color of the water.  The toxins come out through the urine and feces after the process.  It is also important to take minerals because this machine pulls out heavy metals and minerals.  I have seen a copy of water send to Genova Diagnostics to test water after treatment and they found several heavy metals.  Yes, the coils release metal but it is not mercury.  I say, if you bought a machine give it a good try and drink lots of water and replace the minerals.  Tell us what happens to your energy level and health after a while of using it.  Also there are other devices that work with electrical frequencies and kill pathogens, viruses and fungus.  So don't let ignorant people convince you of anything.  Do your own research!  Then tell us your experience.

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