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Glenn Joseph wrote at 2007-03-27 21:34:38
Fom Glenn E Joseph PhD.

It is inconceivable to believe that people will accept man woods or teaching instead of God's. On one hand we say that God's word is infallable and on the oher hand we reject its plain teaching. Inclusive reckoning is man's fabrication and not God  ordained. God set up his time clock 2500 years before there was ever a jew or Abraham. In Genesis he says the evening and morning is a day, that is 24hours composing of darkness and light. God determines how to count time and not a hebrew or jew. Jesus said in vain do they worship me teaching for doctrine the commandments of men and here is  a clear contradiciton to god's established timeclock. 40 days and 40 nights means exactly that and not parts or pieces of a day. If inclusive reckoing was true then you can  observe the sabbath only for 2hrs out of 24hrs and you have kept the whole sabbah day.  This is why we do not understand the ressurection& Matt 12:38-40   Three days and three nights and have accepted the false teachings of the Roman Catholic church that christ died on Friday and raised on Sunday which is only 1 full day and a part of the night. Dan 7:25 warns us of a power to chnge times and laws (theRoman Church)  and its system. Do not assume, no private intepretation, let th bible define a day because all God's prophecies are based on his timing and standards and not on what a jew thinks or decides to implement as truth.


Brad wrote at 2007-04-17 20:13:38
Dr. Glenn E Joseph's demand of perfect exactness seems to me to be a very legalistic view. It is my understanding that the rabbi is correct on the point that the Old Testament, in its mention of the length of reign for various kings, allows for the idea of inclusive reckoning. Joseph apparently rejects this since it is "jews" that wrote the Old Testament. I have no more love for Roman Catholic or Jewish extra-biblical traditions than Joseph, but that does not mean we should reject all that they believe–just because they believe it. Inclusive reckoning is commonly employed and understood today in our reference to certain periods of time. If I go on a trip, and someone asks how long it took, I would not usually know the exact amount of time it took. But I would know to nearest hour or if it was a trip of longer duration, I would know the number of days. We usually answer questions of duration in inexact terms. So, for example, we would not usually say that took 71 hours and 45 minutes and 5.0224 seconds to travel between two points. Rather we would say my trip lasted 3 days. Joseph, and others of his ilk, need to explain why 40 days and 40 nights must be an exact 1,056 hours (to the nano-second) or the Scriptures have failed.


Roy wrote at 2011-01-22 22:16:31
Inclusive reckoning is not as common in the bible as many people think, but it does seem to exist with the kings of Israel during the divided Kingdom period. Judah dis not use this method, they used what one website defines as righteous reckoning. There are plenty of examples that show where inclusive reckoning is definitely not used. Try this link.

http://www.logosapostolic.org/scriptural_bible_study/5g_righteous_reckoning_exam

This study also examines the timing of Jesus on the cross and shows friday death and sunday resurrection is a false interpretation.


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