Does the bible scriptures of 1John 5:7-8 a real proof of the trinity of God?

I have tried to understand this one but i cannot get to the point of seeing the word as a "person" and further more another three persons on earth,and three persons in heaven that makes the truine God, and how can these persons be explain in one or Spirit.please can i know your view on this.

thank you


First, let me apologize for the length of time it took to answer your question.  My father passed recently and I have had a lot to do helping my mother.

The passage you referenced is often used by well meaning but uninformed Trinitarians to prove there are three persons in the Godhead.  What all theologians know but fail to publicize among average congregants is that that passage as well as Mark 16 and Matthew 28:19 are believed to have been explanatory insertions by Trinitarian scribes who sought to interpret the assumed meaning of the original writer's intended thought.  They admit that because of the odd (for the time period# Trinitarian sound of the passages, they could not have been original to the text.  THIS IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE: These passages are NOT FOUND in the oldest manuscripts found.  THEY ARE NOT THERE!  That's why they SHOULD NOT be used to argue for a Trinity of persons in the Godhead.  I could elaborate on this subject in much greater depth but I believe this answers your question.  The Father, the Word #Son) and the Holy Ghost are distinguishable components of the indivisble one true God, not separate "persons."  

Yours for ACTS 2:38 salvation,



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Robert L. Morgan


I was raised as a 4th generation Pentecostal in an ordained Assemblies of God minister's home and educated for the ministry at an A/G Bible College. I transitioned into the United Pentecostal Church International and also attended one of their Bible Colleges. I have a balanced understanding of the Oneness/Trinity debate, water baptism in the Name of Jesus, grace versus legalism, the new birth, the differences between Charismatic, Apostolic, and Pentecostal, worship, church history and the evolution of Christian theology. I have also personally confronted the issue of same gender attraction often found among classical Pentecostals.


I have a deep passion for doctrine and history which I invested myself into heavily while pursuing my education. My entire life has been spent finding Scriptural balance with help provided by exposure to reputable ministries from across the spectrum of the modern Pentecostal and Charismatic movements.

Presently, I am the General Chairman and co-founder of the Global Alliance of Affimring Apostolic Pentecostals, an "affirming" organization dedicated to sharing truth as it is understood by Pentecostals with all people, including but not limited to gay people in their pursuit of God's fullness in their often challenging lives. I attend a multicultural United Pentecostal Church in Tampa, FL.

The Pentecostal Herald. I was also one of the featured subjects of an article written for Charisma Magazine in 2000 regarding the issue of Homosexuality and Christianity.

I graduated in 1983 from Southeastern University in Lakeland, FL (Assemblies of God) with a Bachelors degree in Theology and Pastoral Ministry. I also attended JacksonCollege of Ministries in Jackson, MS where I studied organ, piano and vocal music. I attended A/G churches all my life until 1985 when I fully transitioned in the United Pentecostal Church International. I held a General License with the UPC for several years before resigning to confront personal issues with which I was struggling.

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