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I've got a question about my through the past darkly uk factory sample( testpressing) mono lp with ungrooved blue label. Would there be a uk mono "Through the past darkly" with 1A-2A matrixnumbers? All the TTPD uk mono's i ever seen had always 1A-3A matrixnumbers. My uk mono TTPD demo ( factory sample) has 1A-1A matrixnumbers.( these matrixnumber is never used on the regular mono copies.So, I think, if there's a 1A , and 3A , then there must also exist a 2A , but i never seen one. Hope you can help me ? Can you tell me what the value is of this factory sample?. I also have a uk factory sample of Aftermath stereo grooved,  pink, blue label with matrtixnrs; 5W on both sides.I'm also an expert on this "All experts" site, but i like opinion of other experts like you, ACP. Grts Kristof

Hello and thank you for your question.

First, may I say congratulations on scoring Stones factory sample LPs.  You are correct to assume there's a 2A press plate created for TTPD, but it unfortunately does not confirm whether such a plate was used to press an actual disc.  I do not have such a copy with which to refer, only the standard 1A/3A.

Value would depend heavily on whether you're able to trace ownership to time of pressing.  Many of these factory samples were given to notable people within the music industry.  For sake of argument, let's say you can not produce a trace of ownership.  With regard to the TTPD, I'd imagine that such a factory sample would be even more rare than say a sample from the mid-1960s (such as with Aftermath).  So while it would be safe to put a value of $1,000-1,500 on an Aftermath, my guess is that TTPD with such a matrix may be twice that.  However, this is only my personal estimation.  If ownership can indeed be traced to its origin, and the individual it was designated for is significant, the value would be even greater.

Thank you again for your question and please feel free to contact again.

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