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QUESTION: I am looking to replace my three-tab asphalt shingles with a metal roof.  In particular, I'm looking at a product that is a sandwich of 26 ga metal on the bottom, 2 to 4 inches of polyiso, and 24 ga Kynar 500 painted steel on the top.  Would it make sense to tear off my shingles down the existing 7/16" OSB deck (excellent condition) and put this insulated metal roof panel right over the deck?  I live in North Texas, so want hail resistance and hot summer sun resistance.  I'd like to have a good chance of getting at least 30 years out of this roof.

ANSWER: The IRC code does not require a tear off of a single layer of Asphalt shingles if you are installing a metal roof.
But please check with your local code enforcement office to verify. Some building departments are supposed to follow the IRC but pick and choose which codes they will follow and which ones they will not.

If the asphalt is laying flat, there is no reason to remove it. In this case we would remove hip & ridge shingles, cut back all edges, then cover the whole roof with a synthetic underlayment. The underlayment helps prevent any chemical reactions between incompatible materials, this is money well spent.

A steel or Aluminum metal roof panel with a 70% concentration of Kynar or Hylar paint should easily last 50 years or more. The newest versions with EnergyStar rated "Cool Roof" pigments should last even longer.

Good luck,

Dan

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QUESTION: I left out a possibly important detail - sorry.  I'm going for a "hot roof", due to the practical impossibility of adding insulation below the deck (space within scissor trusses inaccessible) and considerable ease of fully insulating this above deck.  The intra-truss "attic" space would then be ventilated with the air conditioned living space, removing all roof penetrating vents to that "attic".

And I didn't state a key part of my question very well either.  These are not ordinary metal panels. These are 3 inch thick sandwiches of metal, 3" polyiso and 24 ga cool roof metal.

So my real questions are two:
1) What do you think of a hot roof in this case, warnings, advice, experience?
2) What do you think of such metal-polyiso-metal sandwiches in this case, warnings, advice, experience?

Thanks for your original answer to what I actually asked, and my apologies for not asking what I really meant to ask.

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We have not used these types of panels yet. But we have done several of the SIPs panel projects.
The problem with the ISO sandwiches is that they do not allow the roofing material to radiate any of the sun's heat inward, so asphalt roofing for example will have a quite short lifespan due to higher than normal surface temperatures.
Instead of the asphalt shingles (so-called "40 year")lasting 6-8 years as they do on average, they tend to last maybe 3-4 years.

A metal roof with "Cool Roof" pigments (Kynar) really excel under these conditions because they do not, and do not need to radiate heat inward through the roof deck.

The main concern with these installations is making absolutely sure your contractors follow the manufacturers installation instructions exactly. Pay extra attention to seal all seams (top & bottom) and edges exactly as directed by the manufacturer.
Many, maybe even most of contractors are unwilling and/or unable to follow manufacturers instructions. We see this ALL the time. Almost every single product or system failure I have seen has been due to product installations where the installers did not follow the simplest of instructions.
It goes without saying that you need to pick a manufacturer that has been around a while and is large enough to stick around for the duration.

If you can not follow the installation hands-on and eyes-on, find a nit-picky person you can trust to follow the project through for you.

When installed correctly, these installations are a near perfect solution to many of today's building issues like energy usage, mold growth, etc.

Good luck,

Dan

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We are a "green" roofing company. We offer information and advice on metal and synthetic cedar, tile, and slate roofing products. We also address good, sound installation practices for lifetime and slate roof installations. Generally speaking, we are experienced with any materials that have 50 year or longer, expected lifespan, such as copper, terne coated steels, Kynar painted Steel, Aluminum, etc. We do extensive Infrared scans of homes with water leaks, moisture damage, air leakage, etc. So we have a good practical knowledge of what works and what does not work in the long term. We offer no advice on asphalt or fiberglass roofing products.

Experience

Was a hobbyist/home remodeler for over 30 years. Restored over 30 homes. After retiring from engineering (27 years), I studied materials and installation practices of high-end roofing materials. This information was tempered by my engineering experience. We have developed and sell roofing "kits" to roofing contractors who do not have the time to research rarely used roofing products. We ensure that they have all the required materials, tools and information to offer their customers a solid 50 year installation.

Organizations
National Association of Home Builders Fox Valley Builders Assoc. Illinois Association of Home Builders Remodelers Council of NAHB Metal Roofing Alliance EnergyStar provider U.S. Green Builder Council Better Business Bureau

Publications
Our websites www.ecowiseinc.com and www.chicagometalroofing.com, Fox Tails, publication of the Fox Valley Builders Association

Education/Credentials
Tech certificate in Mechanical Drafting, 1978. Self-taught Engineer. Many certificates held. Have achieved NAHB "Certified Graduate Remodeler" designation. Graduate of Green Builder College. Licensed, insured & Bonded Roofer in Illinois.

Awards and Honors
Holder of many Patents, Member of Mensa

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