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About Keith Patton
Expertise
I can answer questions regarding fresh and salt water Catamarran Sailing, techniques and equipment. I can also answer questions regarding the repair of decks and the updating and installation of running and standing rigging on mono-hulls

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I have sailed catammarans in fresh and salt water for over 16 years. I currently own and sail a 30 ft monohull out of Kemah on Galveston Bay, on which I carried out a complete refit.

 
   

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Topic: Sailing



Expert: Keith Patton
Date: 10/11/2007
Subject: eightenth century three masted ship: bark, brig or schooner or

Question
QUESTION: I don't know if you will know the answer to my question, but if you don't I hope you might know to whom I can ask the question.  I would like to know the approximate speed of a three masted 18th century ship like a bark, brig or schooner.  I know it depends on winds, currents etc.

ANSWER: Probably no more than 7 knots.  Speed of a displacement boat is governed by a formula.  SQRT(LWL) * 1.34 = hull speed.  Where LWL is the length of the boat.  A sailing ship has to push the water aside to move forward.  People are puzzled by the fact that when they put a big outboard on a sailboat they can't get it to go past this empirical  number.  It is because the boat is falling back into the void made by its own passing.  That is why a speed boat rears up; that is until it begins to plane. A sailboat with a keel or a large displacement boat will never plane so it is captive to the formula. Certain instances it will sail faster but it is actually surfing on fast moving waves.

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QUESTION: Thank you for your thorough answer, Mr. Patton. I'm writing an historical novel that involves shipping in the 18th century and will mention you as a source if it is published.

One more question: do you have any idea how much it cost per ton to build an 18th century ship, brig or schooner?

Thanks again.


ANSWER: I found a statement in the source below stating that an average 40 gun ship in 1700 cost 6,080 Pounds Sterling.
A brig it states would carry 16 guns.  So one could probably assume that a brig would cost half or a bit less due to the reduced rigging (two masts vs three) than the 40 gun ship.

Keith

http://website.lineone.net/~dee.ord/Golden.htm





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QUESTION: Thanks for your continued help, Keith.  Do you have any knowledge of the tonnage of a 40 cannon ship or brig?  If possible, I would like cost per ton to build a ship. I hope I'm not becoming a "too much" ot a nuisance.  Robert

Answer
Looks like tht tonnage varied.  There are a number listed here with weights from 171 tons to 220 tons.  Dividing the weight into the cost of say 3000 pounds gives a cost of around 14 pounds per ton to build.


http://oceans1.customer.netspace.net.au/international-wrecks.html





Can't say I know this one. I'll look around and send a follow-up.

Keith

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