Saxophone/Domage Alto sax

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Hi,

I recently purchased a E. Domage saxophone with the following information on it. PATD. Sept. 14 1915, 1153489, A, 42058, L .
I salvaged it from a gentleman's estate sale when after helping them clean the people conducting the estate sale, I noticed this sax stuffed up in the ceiling of his garage. It looks like it has been there many years based on it condition. The finish is gone, lots of surface corrosion on the hole covers and linkage and general dirt and cob webs. It is not dented, it is missing the mouth piece that slides over the end, and the corks are missing or no good. I see no other name on it like you mentioned in an answer you gave someone else. Any idea of the make, model, type and general value? Also what would be an average repair on something this beat up and if repaired what type of value. Thanks for your response and your service in our military. My Dads is WWII and Korean vet who served in Aleutian Islands and is still hanging in there!! Thanks again!!

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Hello Will,Your alto sax is a stenciled second line horn from Conn .  That was Conn's second line. The sax was engraved for E. Domage Phila. PA.  The "L" stands for "Low Pitch" (Today's Pitch standard of A=440HZ. What is a stencil? A stencil is a saxophone made by a major manufacturer but will have a different name on it. Music stores, schools and other businesses would order a number of saxophones from a major saxophone maker and have their name put on instead of the company that made them. A major manufacturer could also create separate brand names to compete in certain markets or may have purchased a smaller company and kept the name. Whatever the reason, for the most part these stencil horns were built with many of the features and quality of their parent company. The major saxophone companies that made stencils were Conn, Buescher, Martin. Selmer, Holton and York. Some of these companies were purchased in time and became stencils themselves. There are many ways to tell if a saxophone was produced by a certain company. Tone hole construction, G# key cluster design, key guard design, key layout, octave mechanism type, serial number markings and Iím sure their are more. Speaking of serial numbers most stencils did not follow the parent companies serial number range so it is hard to tell the year it was made. You can estimate the date of manufacture by looking at the saxophones features(G# trill Key, fork Eb trill) and the engraving patterns. The patent date info is for the patent for rolled tone holes. All in all this sounds like a killer sax from the late 1920's. I bet it's perfect for Jazz, heck, even Charlie Parker could have played this fine classic sax!!  The E.Domage was made by Conn, they were Conn's second line. To spend so much money on a sax from the late 20 early 30's in order to fix it up,($450 to $850 ) to get it up and playing, then you could then sell it, and you might break even. Most professional players would rather have the real Conn sax from the same period. Saxophones like these tend to end up being used by students who drop them or trash them. If you are no longer able to play, this sax would be perfect for a hobby player in a local community concert band, or local pick up jazz band. I haven't seen it, I'm assuming it's silver plate, this could be worth anywhere from $575 to $1050 depending on condition. If a sax from that time period doesn't say MARTIN, BUESCHER CONN or KING, then it won't be worth top dollar, now here's the funny part, it was made by Conn, the same craftsman that made those top brands in Elkhart, Indiana(Conn, Buescher,and Martin). So this sax will play great!!! The quality is there and it will be a looker and a player now that you've had all that work done..If or when you sell it, tell them it's a Conn- E. Domage Stencil saxophone. Please go to your local NAPBIRT repair tech,and haved them repad and total owerhaul this fine old sax,when done it will play great!!
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Grant Koeller

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I'm a Professional Jazz Saxophone soloist recently retired from 23 years with the USAF Band Of Flight, WPAFB, OHIO, experienced in performance, technique and equipment. I'm not a buyer/seller or dealer. I have 40 years Alto, Tenor, Soprano and Bari Saxophone performance experience with additional years on the Flute, Clarinet, Bass Clarinet, Bass Guitar, Piano, Drum-set, Guitar and Voice. I'm a third generation professional military musician, my father, Bill Koeller(1939-1997) was in the USAF 1958-1962, and played Jazz Hammond B-3 organ from 1957-1997, and my fathers Uncle, Alfred Koeller (1912-1993), was a professional Acoustic Bassist in the Army Air Corps in WWII, and also performed on Jazz Guitar, Hammond organ, Piano and tenor saxophone.

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Professional Saxophone Soloist, 23 total years with the USAF Bands, 6 years with the USAF Band of Flight, Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, performing on Tenor, Alto, Soprano, Clarinet, and Flute. 4 years in Japan, at Yokota AFB with the USAF Band of the Pacific. An Avid Composer and Arranger for the Night Hawk Protocol Combo. Former Lead Alto Saxophonist with the USAF Night Flight Big Band performing the music of Glenn Miller as well as other hits of the Big Band Era. I collect LP records of Jazz, blue's, classical and rock, and have over 12,000 records.

Organizations
USAF,Phi MU Alpha Sinfonia, Men's National Music Fraternity, Johnny Mack Super Big Band, Tom Daugherty Orchestra, Kim Kelly Orchestra, Dayton Jazz Orchestra, Eddie Love Big Band, Gem City Big Band, Jazz Central Big Band, Shin Sings Orchestra, Kim Kelly Orchestra,USAF Night Flight Jazz Ensemble, Different Hats Big Band, Jimmy Baker Blues Band, This Side Up, Freelance, KING KOELLER Quartet, Jazz Central Big Band, GB Work, Sax On The Web,

Publications
Saxophone On the Web; Anchorage Daily News; All Experts; Augustana College Public Radio, WVIK;

Education/Credentials
North Texas State University School of Music, Jazz Studies 1982-1986 Lead Alto, Lab bands 1982-83 and small group leader 1983-1984, Jazz Radio Host WVIK 90.1 FM NPR affiliate Rock Island, IL United States Collegiate Wind Band European tour 1980 Augustana College, Rock Island IL, Liberal Arts Music Mentors/Teachers:My father Bill Koeller, a Jazz Hammond B-3 Organist (1939-1997) Great Uncle Alfred Koeller, Acoustic Bass 1912-1993

Awards and Honors
Paul Shartle Musician of the Quarter Spring 2008; Glenn Miller Festival, Clarinda, Iowa featured soloist; McDonald's All-American Band and Jazz Ensemble 1979; US Collegiate Wind Bands,Paul Lavalle Conductor, tour of Europe,1980; John Phillip Sousa Award, 1980 Dimond HS Anchorage, Alaska; USAF National Defense Service Medal with Bronze Star; USAF Achievement Medal with 5 Oak Leaf Clusters; USAF Good Conduct Medal with 6 Oak Leaf Clusters

Past/Present Clients
Performed with, Bob Hope, The Platters, Four Tops, Jimmy Dorsey, Crystal Gail, Helen Ready, James Williams, Dallas Jazz Orchestra, Jack Jones, The Mills Brothers, the G-Clef's, Lionel Hampton at Carnegie Hall, Performed for the King Of Thailand 2005, Tom "Bone's" Malone, Roy Hargrove, Tommy Turrentine, Performed for President Gerald Ford, President George W. Bush, The Maguire Sisters, The USO Girls-Andrew Sisters Tribute, The Four Lads, Lincoln Berry, The Dayton Jazz Orchestra, Louis Bellson, Buddy DeFranco, Walter Bishop Jr, Sadao Watanabe, Bobby Shew, Pete Jolly, Quad City Jazz Ensemble, Augustana College Symphonic Band, Jack Scott, Catfish Jazz Society, Intrigue-Boston Wedding Band, The Mark Herbert Little Big Band, The Pacesetters Big Band, The Ambassadors Jazz Ensemble, Pacific Showcase Big Band, Jimmy Dorsey Big Band under the direction of Lee Castle, Ronny Scott Orchestra, Big Al's Hot Dance Orchestra, The Dayton Sidewinders, Tom Daugherty Orchestra, Johnny Mack Super Big Band, Ken Peplowski, Eddie Daniels, Buddy Guy, Roy Hargrove, Warren Parrish, John OMeara Jr., Dave Holcomb, Albia Silva,Vinnie Demartino, Clon VonFitz, The G Clef's

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