Saxophone/RE; King Voll Sax

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King Voll IIII sax side
King Voll IIII sax sid  

King Voll sax
King Voll sax  
Hello Grant,

 Here is the 3rd pic I told you I would send regarding my previous question for King Voll IIII Sax serial number 156045.  I am having trouble with your site and my computer so I hope you get this.  

Cathy

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Hello Cathy
There is no such thing as a King Voll true IIII.
You have a KIng Voll-True II.
The engraving is 3 dimensional.
That's why it looks like 4 I's.
(sn 1452xx to 180xxx; 1932 to late 1935)

NOTES:
* The Voll-True II and the Zephyr had the SAME HN White catalog number, according to Paul Cohen, and he theorizes that they are essentially the same horn. The keywork is virtually identical.

* There is no such thing as the Voll-True III or a Voll True IIII, at least not as a model that escaped into production. The confusion comes from the fact that the engraving on the Voll-True II changed slightly in the later years of its production.
Your sax was made in 1933.
from the web....
"The King Voll-True II
King revamped the line again in 1930, and claimed twenty-two improvements over its previous models. These changes were mostly different tonehole locations on the lower stack, the resizing of other toneholes and movement of the octave pip to accommodate the new King designed mouthpiece (which featured a larger tone chamber). This model was called the Voll-True, and can be quite difficult to play with accurate intonation if a small chamber mouthpiece is used.
In 1932, new alto and tenor models were introduced (the alto made its debut in October 1932, followed by the tenor in December and the baritone in July 1933), known as Voll-True II horns. These are very nice looking instruments, incorporating a "modernistic" appearance and highly stylized look with a new bore for a brighter, more brilliant tone -- geared to the new age of professional commercial playing.
Other Technical Changes in the Voll-True II
Squared off F# trill key and squared off small finger spatulas for each hand
Smartly designed key and clothes guards, eliminating bumper pads
Placement of the low B and Bb tone holes on the same side of the body, eliminating muffled tones and enabling a more responsive mechanism (not found on the baritone)
Larger palm keys
Adjusting screws for some key heights (G# arm, low D/Eb, etc.)
A floating octave key cup (picture 2)
The key action was revamped to a lighter, flute-like feel and the keys were repositioned for a more natural lay, increasing the facility in technical work.
The neck of the baritone could now be turned in any playing position with the octave keys properly functioning (earlier models incorporated a fixed neck).
An ill-conceived mechanism which eliminated the high E key (introduced on the late Voll-True horns and then discontinued early in the Voll-True II run).
In actuality, while the altissimo E/F vent key is eliminated from the late Voll-Trues and early Voll-True II's, the function is not. What essentially happens is when you play high enough (high B and above, if I remember correctly), a double spring "activates" the chromatic side C key AS the altissimo E/F vent key. This sounds like a kinda freaky idea, but this same feature was found on the Martin Handcraft Troubadour -- which was produced at about the same time (and for about as long :) This key action feels relatively natural, even though the mechanism is somewhat suspect."
I would say the value for your sax is about $1500 to $1800, the original lacquer looks fantastic and it's a beauty. You might even be able to get $2000 on a good day...
thanks Grant Koeller

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I'm a Professional Jazz Saxophone soloist recently retired from 23 years with the USAF Band Of Flight, WPAFB, OHIO, experienced in performance, technique and equipment. I'm not a buyer/seller or dealer. I have 40 years Alto, Tenor, Soprano and Bari Saxophone performance experience with additional years on the Flute, Clarinet, Bass Clarinet, Bass Guitar, Piano, Drum-set, Guitar and Voice. I'm a third generation professional military musician, my father, Bill Koeller(1939-1997) was in the USAF 1958-1962, and played Jazz Hammond B-3 organ from 1957-1997, and my fathers Uncle, Alfred Koeller (1912-1993), was a professional Acoustic Bassist in the Army Air Corps in WWII, and also performed on Jazz Guitar, Hammond organ, Piano and tenor saxophone.

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Professional Saxophone Soloist, 23 total years with the USAF Bands, 6 years with the USAF Band of Flight, Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, performing on Tenor, Alto, Soprano, Clarinet, and Flute. 4 years in Japan, at Yokota AFB with the USAF Band of the Pacific. An Avid Composer and Arranger for the Night Hawk Protocol Combo. Former Lead Alto Saxophonist with the USAF Night Flight Big Band performing the music of Glenn Miller as well as other hits of the Big Band Era. I collect LP records of Jazz, blue's, classical and rock, and have over 12,000 records.

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USAF,Phi MU Alpha Sinfonia, Men's National Music Fraternity, Johnny Mack Super Big Band, Tom Daugherty Orchestra, Kim Kelly Orchestra, Dayton Jazz Orchestra, Eddie Love Big Band, Gem City Big Band, Jazz Central Big Band, Shin Sings Orchestra, Kim Kelly Orchestra,USAF Night Flight Jazz Ensemble, Different Hats Big Band, Jimmy Baker Blues Band, This Side Up, Freelance, KING KOELLER Quartet, Jazz Central Big Band, GB Work, Sax On The Web,

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Saxophone On the Web; Anchorage Daily News; All Experts; Augustana College Public Radio, WVIK;

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North Texas State University School of Music, Jazz Studies 1982-1986 Lead Alto, Lab bands 1982-83 and small group leader 1983-1984, Jazz Radio Host WVIK 90.1 FM NPR affiliate Rock Island, IL United States Collegiate Wind Band European tour 1980 Augustana College, Rock Island IL, Liberal Arts Music Mentors/Teachers:My father Bill Koeller, a Jazz Hammond B-3 Organist (1939-1997) Great Uncle Alfred Koeller, Acoustic Bass 1912-1993

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Paul Shartle Musician of the Quarter Spring 2008; Glenn Miller Festival, Clarinda, Iowa featured soloist; McDonald's All-American Band and Jazz Ensemble 1979; US Collegiate Wind Bands,Paul Lavalle Conductor, tour of Europe,1980; John Phillip Sousa Award, 1980 Dimond HS Anchorage, Alaska; USAF National Defense Service Medal with Bronze Star; USAF Achievement Medal with 5 Oak Leaf Clusters; USAF Good Conduct Medal with 6 Oak Leaf Clusters

Past/Present Clients
Performed with, Bob Hope, The Platters, Four Tops, Jimmy Dorsey, Crystal Gail, Helen Ready, James Williams, Dallas Jazz Orchestra, Jack Jones, The Mills Brothers, the G-Clef's, Lionel Hampton at Carnegie Hall, Performed for the King Of Thailand 2005, Tom "Bone's" Malone, Roy Hargrove, Tommy Turrentine, Performed for President Gerald Ford, President George W. Bush, The Maguire Sisters, The USO Girls-Andrew Sisters Tribute, The Four Lads, Lincoln Berry, The Dayton Jazz Orchestra, Louis Bellson, Buddy DeFranco, Walter Bishop Jr, Sadao Watanabe, Bobby Shew, Pete Jolly, Quad City Jazz Ensemble, Augustana College Symphonic Band, Jack Scott, Catfish Jazz Society, Intrigue-Boston Wedding Band, The Mark Herbert Little Big Band, The Pacesetters Big Band, The Ambassadors Jazz Ensemble, Pacific Showcase Big Band, Jimmy Dorsey Big Band under the direction of Lee Castle, Ronny Scott Orchestra, Big Al's Hot Dance Orchestra, The Dayton Sidewinders, Tom Daugherty Orchestra, Johnny Mack Super Big Band, Ken Peplowski, Eddie Daniels, Buddy Guy, Roy Hargrove, Warren Parrish, John OMeara Jr., Dave Holcomb, Albia Silva,Vinnie Demartino, Clon VonFitz, The G Clef's

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