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This horn was purchased in Germany in the early '70's by a service man.  He sold it to my parents when he returned, and I played it faithfully for eight years in Jr high and HS.  It has just been refurbished professionally, and sings almost as well as when I used to play regularly.  Is  this a collectible horn, or just a student model?

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Your sax was made by Max Keilwerth, who built some very good horns.  The President is a stencil. Made in germany. ergos are fine, although I feel all Keilwerth vintage horns have good ergos,  I  the beauty of the Keilwerth horns is their beautiful, lyrical tone with that great dark bottom. They just sound huge. You could go with the edgiest mouthpiece and edgiest resos you can find, and it's still gonna be a generally dark-sounding horn,  Anyway, count me in as a fan.
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"I bought a "President" for 200 bucks back in the '80's in Sydney Australia. I taught myself to play on it and used to busk down on Sydney harbor near Circular Quay. One night four punters approached me and said they could hear me  all the way from Manly - a harbourside suburb about 12 kilometers away. That's the power of the Hohner! I use a Berg Larsen metal mouthpiece with a wide tip opening and #2 1/2 or 3 reed. When I have played with other horn players with Yamahas or the like they have always commented on the tone of the President and what presence it has. I'm just about to submit the girl to another no doubt expensive overhaul but she's worth it. I reckon there's something in the actual metal or the alloy that gives this machine the timbre it has. This girl lives under my bed and I have not played her for about 6 years but am about to start again jamming with friends and playing at the local pub. A great horn well made from the start and never to be sold on! While it is the quality of construction which has always been good.... it's the body tube, bow, and bell tube design which gives the Keilwerth Bros. horns their signature tone....it is really a sound unto itself. Well I decided to get this old instrument looked at and found a guy in Sydney that had a look at her today. Turns out the post attaching the bell to the body has been pushed back and the holes on the body are misaligned. His advice was to change up to a new Student model Yamaha with five years warranty and that new car smell or if I had a "sentimental attachment" he could repair mine for a grand. I asked what was involved and it would be a complete rebuild including removal of the bell and re-align the body, new pads, springs spacers etc. I booked it in this afternoon.
There's a three month waiting list so I won't get it back for a while but I can post some before and after photos and comments if anyone is keen.
Around here that repair might cost $300. Basically the bell brace got pushed into the body tube. So one has to unsolder the brace at both places, remove the dents from the tube and bell, and resolder the brace back on. If, while doing that, the tech cares to replace maybe about a half-dozen pads and do a decent regulation, then all in all it should run maybe $500 or so....
If there are any other techs in your vicinity (i.e. within an hour or so drive) it would be worth your effort to take it to them. "all the pro brass and woodwind players use this guy ..." would be looked at by most people as a rave.
I hear something like this, and my immediate thought is: "then he has no need of your business, is quite busy enough, doesn't know you, and isn't likely to come up with a reasonable estimate"
Well...with the possible exception of Japan....no place is more expensive for tech work than the SF bay area, in Calif.
You might wanna consider that if it had an overhaul and it still is in rel good shape, you could probably save a few hundred if you just fix the bell impaction and replace only the pads absolutely required. Even here, that would probably only run around $600-700.
Best of luck with it...I agree they are worth keeping (and not just for sentimental value).this sax is worth about 1200... it is a pro sax...

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I'm a Professional Jazz Saxophone soloist recently retired from 23 years with the USAF Band Of Flight, WPAFB, OHIO, experienced in performance, technique and equipment. I'm not a buyer/seller or dealer. I have 40 years Alto, Tenor, Soprano and Bari Saxophone performance experience with additional years on the Flute, Clarinet, Bass Clarinet, Bass Guitar, Piano, Drum-set, Guitar and Voice. I'm a third generation professional military musician, my father, Bill Koeller(1939-1997) was in the USAF 1958-1962, and played Jazz Hammond B-3 organ from 1957-1997, and my fathers Uncle, Alfred Koeller (1912-1993), was a professional Acoustic Bassist in the Army Air Corps in WWII, and also performed on Jazz Guitar, Hammond organ, Piano and tenor saxophone.

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Professional Saxophone Soloist, 23 total years with the USAF Bands, 6 years with the USAF Band of Flight, Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, performing on Tenor, Alto, Soprano, Clarinet, and Flute. 4 years in Japan, at Yokota AFB with the USAF Band of the Pacific. An Avid Composer and Arranger for the Night Hawk Protocol Combo. Former Lead Alto Saxophonist with the USAF Night Flight Big Band performing the music of Glenn Miller as well as other hits of the Big Band Era. I collect LP records of Jazz, blue's, classical and rock, and have over 12,000 records.

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USAF,Phi MU Alpha Sinfonia, Men's National Music Fraternity, Johnny Mack Super Big Band, Tom Daugherty Orchestra, Kim Kelly Orchestra, Dayton Jazz Orchestra, Eddie Love Big Band, Gem City Big Band, Jazz Central Big Band, Shin Sings Orchestra, Kim Kelly Orchestra,USAF Night Flight Jazz Ensemble, Different Hats Big Band, Jimmy Baker Blues Band, This Side Up, Freelance, KING KOELLER Quartet, Jazz Central Big Band, GB Work, Sax On The Web,

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North Texas State University School of Music, Jazz Studies 1982-1986 Lead Alto, Lab bands 1982-83 and small group leader 1983-1984, Jazz Radio Host WVIK 90.1 FM NPR affiliate Rock Island, IL United States Collegiate Wind Band European tour 1980 Augustana College, Rock Island IL, Liberal Arts Music Mentors/Teachers:My father Bill Koeller, a Jazz Hammond B-3 Organist (1939-1997) Great Uncle Alfred Koeller, Acoustic Bass 1912-1993

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Paul Shartle Musician of the Quarter Spring 2008; Glenn Miller Festival, Clarinda, Iowa featured soloist; McDonald's All-American Band and Jazz Ensemble 1979; US Collegiate Wind Bands,Paul Lavalle Conductor, tour of Europe,1980; John Phillip Sousa Award, 1980 Dimond HS Anchorage, Alaska; USAF National Defense Service Medal with Bronze Star; USAF Achievement Medal with 5 Oak Leaf Clusters; USAF Good Conduct Medal with 6 Oak Leaf Clusters

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Performed with, Bob Hope, The Platters, Four Tops, Jimmy Dorsey, Crystal Gail, Helen Ready, James Williams, Dallas Jazz Orchestra, Jack Jones, The Mills Brothers, the G-Clef's, Lionel Hampton at Carnegie Hall, Performed for the King Of Thailand 2005, Tom "Bone's" Malone, Roy Hargrove, Tommy Turrentine, Performed for President Gerald Ford, President George W. Bush, The Maguire Sisters, The USO Girls-Andrew Sisters Tribute, The Four Lads, Lincoln Berry, The Dayton Jazz Orchestra, Louis Bellson, Buddy DeFranco, Walter Bishop Jr, Sadao Watanabe, Bobby Shew, Pete Jolly, Quad City Jazz Ensemble, Augustana College Symphonic Band, Jack Scott, Catfish Jazz Society, Intrigue-Boston Wedding Band, The Mark Herbert Little Big Band, The Pacesetters Big Band, The Ambassadors Jazz Ensemble, Pacific Showcase Big Band, Jimmy Dorsey Big Band under the direction of Lee Castle, Ronny Scott Orchestra, Big Al's Hot Dance Orchestra, The Dayton Sidewinders, Tom Daugherty Orchestra, Johnny Mack Super Big Band, Ken Peplowski, Eddie Daniels, Buddy Guy, Roy Hargrove, Warren Parrish, John OMeara Jr., Dave Holcomb, Albia Silva,Vinnie Demartino, Clon VonFitz, The G Clef's

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