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Hi  Grant...
I recently came across a post from you regarding a Gretzen found in a barn with mice living it.  (See attached)  I came across a Gretzen Tenor with the original case.  All key's and pads are in tack but as you can see in the attached images... it's finish is less than 'new' so to speak.  The marking on the back is Made in Italy  with the number 8448 stamped above it.   In your opinion... what would the "as is" value be ?    Many thanks in Advance.   L.Mann

The brand name is Getzen. there is no letter R. This is a Elkhorn made by Getzen.
This is, in all likelihood a saxophone made by Alfonso Rampone in Quarna Sotto, Italy. I think this was made in the late 50's or early 60. His horns were often, loosely based on Conn models.
Alfonso Rampone was related to Rampone & Cazzani but had a different company.
Here what Claudi Zolla at Rampone & Cazzani had to say about a similar horn.

Quote Originally Posted by mmstarke  View Post
.......I did contact Rampone & Cazzani for more information on my Elkhorn (Getzen) Sax.
Very friendly Claudio  wrote:

"... it is in fact a saxophone made in QUARNA, the village over LAKE MAGGIORE / LAKE ORTA where our company started back in 1818 and still is based today. More in detail we are speaking of an ALFONSO RAMPONE, not Agostino RAMPONE & G. Battista CAZZANI. For sure an interesting vintage horn, not popular or very precious (economically) as some rare Rampone & Cazzani ones or CONNs or similars but a good horn for sure. I personally like these. Alfonso, a cousin of the Rampone owners first worked at R&C company and later started his company around 1932. He stopped then his business around 1974. I would date your horn around 1958... "
The aftermarket modification I referred to is an additional strap ring. Yes, I thought red rollers were commonly seen on older Italian instruments.
This is clearly not a special valuable museum piece, but an instrument with a good big sound and potentially a good player. The fun part about older horns is the variation. It seems there was a period where there was more experimentation that gave us instruments with personality. Now it seems that everything copies Selmer as closely as possible.
Compare this to the nearly infinite variation among guitars ... It's astonishing what guitarists get to choose from.
THis sax is worth....
Grant Koeller


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I'm a Professional Jazz Saxophone soloist recently retired from 23 years with the USAF Band Of Flight, WPAFB, OHIO, experienced in performance, technique and equipment. I'm not a buyer/seller or dealer. I have 40 years Alto, Tenor, Soprano and Bari Saxophone performance experience with additional years on the Flute, Clarinet, Bass Clarinet, Bass Guitar, Piano, Drum-set, Guitar and Voice. I'm a third generation professional military musician, my father, Bill Koeller(1939-1997) was in the USAF 1958-1962, and played Jazz Hammond B-3 organ from 1957-1997, and my fathers Uncle, Alfred Koeller (1912-1993), was a professional Acoustic Bassist in the Army Air Corps in WWII, and also performed on Jazz Guitar, Hammond organ, Piano and tenor saxophone.


Professional Saxophone Soloist, 23 total years with the USAF Bands, 6 years with the USAF Band of Flight, Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, performing on Tenor, Alto, Soprano, Clarinet, and Flute. 4 years in Japan, at Yokota AFB with the USAF Band of the Pacific. An Avid Composer and Arranger for the Night Hawk Protocol Combo. Former Lead Alto Saxophonist with the USAF Night Flight Big Band performing the music of Glenn Miller as well as other hits of the Big Band Era. I collect LP records of Jazz, blue's, classical and rock, and have over 12,000 records.

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North Texas State University School of Music, Jazz Studies 1982-1986 Lead Alto, Lab bands 1982-83 and small group leader 1983-1984, Jazz Radio Host WVIK 90.1 FM NPR affiliate Rock Island, IL United States Collegiate Wind Band European tour 1980 Augustana College, Rock Island IL, Liberal Arts Music Mentors/Teachers:My father Bill Koeller, a Jazz Hammond B-3 Organist (1939-1997) Great Uncle Alfred Koeller, Acoustic Bass 1912-1993

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Paul Shartle Musician of the Quarter Spring 2008; Glenn Miller Festival, Clarinda, Iowa featured soloist; McDonald's All-American Band and Jazz Ensemble 1979; US Collegiate Wind Bands,Paul Lavalle Conductor, tour of Europe,1980; John Phillip Sousa Award, 1980 Dimond HS Anchorage, Alaska; USAF National Defense Service Medal with Bronze Star; USAF Achievement Medal with 5 Oak Leaf Clusters; USAF Good Conduct Medal with 6 Oak Leaf Clusters

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Performed with, Bob Hope, The Platters, Four Tops, Jimmy Dorsey, Crystal Gail, Helen Ready, James Williams, Dallas Jazz Orchestra, Jack Jones, The Mills Brothers, the G-Clef's, Lionel Hampton at Carnegie Hall, Performed for the King Of Thailand 2005, Tom "Bone's" Malone, Roy Hargrove, Tommy Turrentine, Performed for President Gerald Ford, President George W. Bush, The Maguire Sisters, The USO Girls-Andrew Sisters Tribute, The Four Lads, Lincoln Berry, The Dayton Jazz Orchestra, Louis Bellson, Buddy DeFranco, Walter Bishop Jr, Sadao Watanabe, Bobby Shew, Pete Jolly, Quad City Jazz Ensemble, Augustana College Symphonic Band, Jack Scott, Catfish Jazz Society, Intrigue-Boston Wedding Band, The Mark Herbert Little Big Band, The Pacesetters Big Band, The Ambassadors Jazz Ensemble, Pacific Showcase Big Band, Jimmy Dorsey Big Band under the direction of Lee Castle, Ronny Scott Orchestra, Big Al's Hot Dance Orchestra, The Dayton Sidewinders, Tom Daugherty Orchestra, Johnny Mack Super Big Band, Ken Peplowski, Eddie Daniels, Buddy Guy, Roy Hargrove, Warren Parrish, John OMeara Jr., Dave Holcomb, Albia Silva,Vinnie Demartino, Clon VonFitz, The G Clef's

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