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Self Defense - Punching with first two or last three knuckles.


Expert: Marc MacYoung - 4/28/2009

Question
Hi!

I have been taught to  hit with first two knuckles but i recently  read Get tough form Jack Dempsey and he advocates  last three knuckles. I tried my fist against a wall and for me the wrist alignment feels more solid when connecting with last three  but on the other hand pinky and ringfinger knuckles seem more frail than index and midlefinger. So I would like to know your opinion about the correct landing of punches.

Answer
Okay first things first NEVER try to learn a new way of hitting by yourself. Find someone who really knows how to do it and -- this is important -- can ARTICULATE the details (like, range, targeting and what muscle tension patterns) of a particular punch.

Otherwise you're going to break your hand.

There ain't NO such thing as a universal 'right' or 'best' way to punch. Each punch is like a specific tool that you use for a particular job. A tool that's great for one job sucks for another. And this goes for ALL the different ways of punching

The last few knuckles is a good way to punch, but here are a of considerations

a) it's best as a mid-range punch
b) it's best as a vertical punch
c) it's best as a body shot
d) it's to be delivered to the center line of the body/head
e) you tighten the muscles along the ulna bone and wrist
f) you don't really use it on circular punches
g) you kant your wrist slightly up


The last forms a 'straight line' between arm, wrist and hand. One that you can run your other hand along you ulna bone, across your wrist and over the pinky-side of your hand without changing direction.

But the most important thing about this kind of punch is that you have to deliver the knuckles straight into the opponent's centerline.  This is why it works best as a vertical punch. It's less about whether you're hitting hard or soft target with a hard fist (which is still important), than it is about making sure your punch isn't deflected off a cylinder.

Think about a barrel in front of you. Now you poke it with your finger. If your finger doesn't hit on the center line, it's going to be deflected one way or the other -- because of the barrel's shape. When you poke it in the middle, your finger won't deflect.

You need to do the same thing with the THREE knuckles during a vertical punch. It doesn't matter if you're coming straight in, from an angle or from the side, the punch has to hit the middle of the 'cylinder'

There are many exceptions to this rule, but as a starting point, it's a critical to ingrain this rule if you don't want to break your hand. Those exceptions are specific punches that you can do AFTER you've learned how to tense your muscles and hold your wrist so you don't break your hand when hitting with power.

And while we're on the subject, do you think it's important NOT to break your hand?

What I have just described to you is a Wing Chun vertical punch that uses those knuckles. It's the safest way I know how to be introduced to hitting this way. Dempsey's punch is a VERY powerful one, but I wouldn't try to figure it out on my own. And once again, I strongly suggest you not try to do this stuff without good instruction.

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