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Expert: Pastor Don Carpenter - 10/8/2009
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QUESTION: If man can only live by every word that proceeded from the mouth of God. Why did Rome take this testimony out of the bible?
Then saith Jesus unto them again, Peace be unto you, as Abba Amma hath sent me, even so send I you. And when he had said this he breathed on them and said unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost; preach the Gospel, and announce ye unto all nations; the resurrection of the Son of Man. 7. Teach ye the holy law of love which I have delivered unto you. And whosoever forsake their sins, they are remitted unto them, and whosoever continue in their sins they are retained unto them. 8. Baptize them who believe and repent, bless and anoint them, and offer ye the pure Oblation of the fruits of the earth, which I have appointed unto you for a Memorial of me.
Here is the bible equivalent text according to the Roman bible gospel cannons.
John 20:21-23 21 So Jesus said to them again, “Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.” 22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
ANSWER: Thank you for this interesting question. I am not sure what in the world you were quoting, but the King James Bible, which comes from the Textus Receptus Greek manuscripts and not a Roman Catholic translation says this:
John 20:21-23
21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: 23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.
God has promised to preserve every word. THis did not come through the fragmented Greek and Hebrew from which the Roman Catholic versions, and all the other modern english translations come. God's perfectly preserved word was translated from the Textus Receptus and is found in the King James Bible.
Psalm 12:6-7
6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.
I hope that this helps you.
In Christ
Pastor Don
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QUESTION: I was Quoting from a gospel that is verifyably more complete and ancient than the 4 Roman gospels we have in the Catholic NT today, Does not matter which version.
At this link I was able to provide Very solid evidence that the 4 bible gospels we have today came from a single written gospel source.
http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/diffinitive%20evidence%20the%204%20gos...
If the official traditional story regarding the 4 Roman gospels were true why am I able to display this information and make a claim that is true which defies and shakes the traditional foundations of Christianity?
God Bless
ANSWER: Galatians 1:6-9
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.
Paul commanded us not to change the Gospel that we were given. Matthew Mark, Luke and John were not Roman gospels. Overwhelming evidence points to their acceptance in churches as early as 125 AD, 200 years before the Roman Catholic church ever came into existance.
I hope that this helps you.
In Christ
Pastor Don
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QUESTION: In the verse of text you quote to me he mentions only one gospel. Why do the Christians have four? If they came from one single Gospel source how true is your claim that the 4 gospels were widely accepted. The gospel that illustrates that the 4 gospels came from one single source. After the gosels were broken up.. it's assumed that an early Christian writer is quoting Matthew when he quotes a text specific only to matthew.
How true is this asumption that there were always 4 gosples. If the apostles were inspired me, which they were.. all twelve would have spoken the very things Christ spoke since it would have been the spirit of Christ putting the words in their mouth to speak.
One perfect gospel from one source (holy spirit) Paul mentions only one gospel in the reference you sent to me. Why do you now have 4?
Do God's children hear God's voice when they are of the truth?
If they are not hearing the voice of truth and are forced to only read the corrupted historical stories of men who could. What does that make them?
Here is a question a littl more close to home. If Ellen white Prophecied that the 1843 chart was not to be changed. Why did the adventist church go against the voice of prophecy to 1844. Before responding with a version of speculation for this. Review pages 41,42,45,and 46
also before answering with speculation, pray to God and listen for the voice of truth to give you an answer or you may be bearing false witness. how then can you repent from false witness if God does not give you what you are to speak.
Answer
Hello Todd,
There is no problem with telling the same story from different perspectives like the 4 Gospels did. The precedent was set in the Old Testament. Deuteronomy re-tells the stories contained in the other Books of Moses, but from a different perspective... but God the Holy Spirit moved Moses that this would happen. 1%262 Kings and 1%262 Chronicles both tell the same stories but from different perspectives... both are accepted as scripture.
Now as to Ellen White, you have a great point! She cannot be a prophet when God's word says that there is to be no more prophecy added!
Revelation 22:18
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.
I hope that this helps you.
In Christ
Pastor Don
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