Seventh-Day Adventists/SDA deficiences
Frank wrote at 2015-01-07 14:25:15
4 19 2004 - SDA deficiencies
<<< The expert’s answer: >>>
The unbelievable blindness that falls upon those that reject an honest reading of the Bible and instead blindly follow a church is truly amazing. I do not take away the Ten Commandments. God, in His infinite wisdom, felt that the human race was ready for the full revelation (see Hebrews 1:1-2).
<<< “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;” (Hebrews 1:1-2 KJV) Whatever the expert means by a full revelation, it must include the Decalogue or it is heresy. >>>
Therefore, He sent His only Son to offer His children a HIGHER MORALITY in the teachings of Jesus Christ. So it was God who made the Ten Commandments, as given on Mt. Sinai, obsolete.
<<< He didn’t make the law obsolete by His atoning sacrifice. He established the law. “Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.” (Romans 3:31 KJV) There are not degrees of morality. Not all sins are of equal magnitude but no sin is small in the eyes of God. The wages of any sin is death. >>>
“If the MINISTRY OF DEATH, CARVED IN WRITING ON STONE, was inaugurated with such glory that the Israelites could not look on Moses' face because of the glory that shone on it (even though it was a fading glory), how much GREATER WILL BE THE GLORY OF THE MINISTRY OF THE SPIRIT? If the ministry of the covenant that condemned had glory, GREATER BY FAR is the glory of the ministry that justifies. Indeed, when you compare the limited glory with this surpassing glory, THE FORMER SHOULD BE DECLARED NO GLORY AT ALL. If what was DESTINED TO PASS AWAY was given in glory, GREATER BY FAR IS THE GLORY THAT ENDURES” (II Corinthians 3:7-11).
<<< “But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.”
(2 Corinthians 3:7-11 KJV)
<<< The Old Covenant law pointed to Christ on the cross and as our High Priest as the remedy for the broken law. That which was done away was the ceremonial remedy for sin under the Old Covenant. Also done away is the condemnation of the law for those who are in Christ. Not by making the law obsolete, but by writing its principles in the heart and mind. “For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:” (Hebrews 8:8-10 KJV) >>>
St. Paul is extremely clear that the Ten Commandments are inferior to the New Covenant. “How much greater will be the glory of the ministry of the Spirit?” “Greater by far is the glory of the ministry that justifies.” The Ten Commandments had “limited glory”. The New Covenant “surpassing glory”. The Ten Commandments were “destined to pass away”. The New Covenant commands of Christ are “greater by far” and will endure forever. Please explain how the higher morality of Christ's Laws that I am under “kill” my theology? Jesus himself declared his commands superior to the Old Covenant Commandments (see Matthew 5:21-22; 27-28; 31-32; 33-34; 38-39; 43-44).
<<< None of Christ’s “New Covenant Commands” change or do away with the precepts of the Decalogue. Christ said the law applies to the intents and purposes of the heart as well as to the actual deed. There is no change in the moral law. Here is proof that hatred was sin, and not just murder, under the Old Covenant as well. "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
(Leviticus 19:17 KJV) This is more proof that the moral law of the Old Covenant in no different from the moral law of the New Covenant. >>>
You say, “Where is no law there is no transgression of the law. So there is no sin.” I do not say that there is no law. I have said it before, and I will say it again, I am under law-the law of Christ not Moses. “I am subject to the law of Christ” (I Corinthians 9:21). I believe that this shows that you are blindly following your SDA masters. You do not comprehend what I say. So you make the absurd statement, “Even Satan according to your theology is holy.” Ridiculous!
<<< The Ten Commandments is not the Law of Moses. The Ten Commandments represent the broken moral law. The Law of Moses contains all the laws for the governance of the new nation as well as the Levitical law which is the ceremonial remedy for sin. >>>
You say that Jesus wrote the Ten Commandments in the dust of the temple. The Bible does not reveal what Jesus wrote in the dust (see John 8:6-8). Can you see why I say that you need to read the Bible without SDA glasses? Then you will be able to see God's word as it is. This will prevent you from making foolish unbiblical statements.
<<< That is just an impertinent side issue. >>>
I do preach the gospel. I do this in different ways. One way is to expose false theology such as in the unique doctrines of the SDA. Jesus exposed false theology (see Matthew 23). As did Paul, “For even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel not in accord with the one we delivered to you, let a curse be upon him! (Galatians 1:8).
God's Law was not destroyed, it was made better in Christ.
<<< Does the expert really believe God is an unfair God who gave a defective law to His creation that He had to fix because they didn’t keep it? Did God really give a defective law to those who lived under the Old Covenant? What does scripture tell us about the law?
“The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness.” (Psalms 111:7-8 KJV)
“The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.” (Psalms 19:7 KJV)
No, God did not make and inferior law and then send Jesus to die on the cross so He could fix it. The problem with the Old Covenant law wasn’t with its precepts, it was with the people. They did not keep it. “For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:” (Hebrews 8:8 KJV) No, the fault wasn’t in the law. It was with the House of Israel and the House of Judah. >>>
Jesus perfected God's Law. “I have not come to abolish them (God's Laws), but to fulfill them” (Matthew 5:17b).
<<< We must first expose the expert’s deceptive wording. He starts by saying Jesus perfected God’s law. He then offers Matthew 5:17 as proof. The problem is, the text he gives as proof that Jesus perfected God’s law doesn’t say Jesus perfected God’s laws. It says He “fulfilled” them. Fulfilling the law does not involve perfecting it, as the law that was already perfect. This is a common tactic by the expert to make the Bible say something it does not really say. >>>
“Teacher, which commandment of the law is the greatest?” Jesus said to love God and to love your neighbor. “On these two commandments the whole law is based” (see Matthew 22:37-40). Too bad for the SDA! Great place for Jesus to have quoted the Sabbath Command or at least one of the Ten Commandments!
<<< The two commands upon which the law is based are defined by the Ten and here is proof. “Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.” (Romans 13:8-10 KJV) >>>
The moral principles of the Ten Commandments are carried over into the New Covenant.
<<< The law did not change when Christ died on the cross. Christ fulfills the law in us as we are obedient to the Holy Spirit. Christ did not die on the cross to change or end the law but to establish its principles in the heart and mind. “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:” (Hebrews 8:10 KJV) It is by His atoning sacrifice and grace that we are forgiven and strengthened to walk in obedience, making it possible for us to keep the law. “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9 KJV) >>>
The First Commandment-Matthew 4:10.
<<< “Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.” (Matthew 4:10 KJV)
The Second Commandment-I Corinthians 10:7, 14; Revelation 9:20.
The Third Commandment-Matthew 5:34-35; 6:9.
The Fourth Commandment-NO COMMAND EXHORTING SABBATH KEEPING IN THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT.
<<< None of the commandments had to be restated in the New Testament for them to be New Covenant commandments. The expert makes an issue about the law being Love for God and love for man rather than the Decalogue. Love for God and man are the same law principles that were to motivate adherence to the law under the Old Covenant as well.
NC command – “Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.” (Matthew 22:37 KJV)
OC command - “And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.” (Deuteronomy 6:5 KJV)
NC command – “And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." (Matthew 22:39 KJV)
OC command – “Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.” (Lev 19:18 KJV)
If the Sabbath is to no longer be observed it is necessary to show from scripture that the Sabbath has been changed to Sunday (or any other day for that matter). Jesus never changed it. He even went so far as to say that the Sabbath was made for man (Gr. Anthropos). He never said it was just for the Jews. >>>
The Fifth Commandment-Ephesians 6:2.
The Sixth Commandment-Galatians 5:19-21; Revelation 21:8.
The Seventh Commandment-Galatians 5:19.
The Eighth Commandment-Romans 13:9; Ephesians 4:28.
The Ninth Commandment-I Timothy 1:9-10; Revelation 21:8.
The Tenth Commandment-Ephesians 5:5; Romans 13:9; I Corinthians 6:10.
Have a nice day,
<<< In Christ’s love,