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QUESTION: I have a Murray Ride On Lawn Mower which uses an 8 hp Tecumseh Motor (TVM195 Model 150269F.  It is a rear engine rider. I need to identify this machine so I can try to find a manual/illustrated parts list for it.  The id tag/sticker has been removed from the back of the machine, and I am unable to identify it.  I can tell you it also uses a Spicer 4450-3 transaxle that bears the date April 1997 on it.  Is there a way to determine the exact model number of this machine?  I believe it may be in the Model 30550 group, but not sure. Can you help me?  Where can I obtain a manual/parts list?  I managed to find a downloadable illustrated parts list/breakdown for the motor on line.

ANSWER: The first digit of the engine code nubmer indicate year the engine was made.  The engine maunufacturing date is usually one year before the actual mower was made. Check out page 2 on the link below"

I'm betting the model is 30565A.  What parts are you needing?


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QUESTION: Thanks for responding.  The web link you provided makes sense to me of the engine marking “DOM 7069”.  I understand this to mean the Tecumseh motor I have was manufactured in March of 1997.  That would mesh nicely with the April 1997 date on the Spicer Transaxle.  You asked me what parts I needed.  Actually, I was looking for a service manual or at least a procedure for adjusting the clutch if there is one.  The Rider my son was given runs ok, but it just will not pull its own weight.  When it is running and in gear and without any one on it, it will creep along when given a shove.  I know that the Spicer Transaxle is a sealed unit and not meant to be serviced by a consumer.  I am hoping that the problem might just be an adjustment problem.  Could the brake be adjusted too tight?  I would appreciate any advice you can give me.  


Peerless service manual link:

The Spicer is almost identical to the Peerless so the manual is a great reference.  Those transaxles can be repaired.  The shift keys are the weak point but you will usually have at least one forward or reverse gear even if the keys break.

As for a clutch adjustment the idle pulley is the only adjustment.  Just loosen the idler pulley nut/bolt and you should be able to slide the idler pulley.  There not much adjustment.  is the belt slipping?  If you can roll the mower when it is in neutral then odds are the brake is not dragging too much.

I would still dis-assemble the brakes and clean.  DO NOT lose the small metal plate on the dowel pin side of the brake assembly and make sure you re-install in the correct order.  Clean the dowel pins with sandpaper or a wirebrush.  Clean the dowel pin holes with some steelwool wrapped around a drill bit.  Use light grease on the dowel pins to lube and keep from rusting.


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Eric A. Jones


Lawnmower Repair . Certified Master Service Technician from B&S. Have 23 years experience on B&S, Lawn Chief, Weed Eater, Echo, Peerless, Wheel Horse, Snapper, Atlas, MTD, McCulloch, Homelite and many other numerous brands. Specialize in electrical repair.


Born and raised in the midwest. Started tinkering with engines when I was about 14 on my Suzuki RM-80. I began lawn mower repair at a small hardware store. I knew absolutely nothing. I read lots of repair manuals and met an older fellow who taught me many lessons. I continued working on small engines through high school and paid my way through college working on mowers at the same hardware store. Decided to get away from the midwest and mower repair so I joined the Air Force. I repaired air traffic control electronic equipment and ended up in Hawaii where I got a part time job at Small Engine Clinic. I gained a lot of experience from the Small Engine Clinic and had a blast repairing small engines. I then took the Briggs and Stratton Master Service Technician test and earned my MST. I then traveled to Wisconsin where I attended the factory update training seminar and received formal training. Continued working on mowers part time as I completed 20 years of military. Retired from the military on a Friday and continued in the lawn and garden industry the next Monday.

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