1)Ball hits fence in center field ..then hits off outfielders
glove/person and goes over fence before hitting ground

what is the call?

2)if when the ball hits off the fence ...then hits the ground then hits off outfielders glove/person and goes
over fence
what is that call?

thank you

Hi Greg,

I answered this a couple days ago, it might have went to your spam box.

By rule in both cases the the ball is dead and runners are awarded 2 bases from the time of the pitch. (sometimes called a GRD)

I don't think you're asking this but in either case if it was intentionally deflected out of play it is 2 bases from the last base touched at the time the ball entered DBT.



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