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# Stamps (Philately)/#C22?

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Scott,

I have another question here. I'm not sure what this quad would be worth. It seems like some blocks are going for a lot online, whereas others aren't. Again, I'm totally lost on what the differences are. Does it have to do with where the outside block edge is w/relation to the stamps?

Thanks,
Robbie

Hi Robbie,
There are a number of things that can contribute to increased value in blocks.  Let's talk about blocks for a second.

Blocks are any group of stamps 4 or more in a contiguous block, of at least 2 rows and 2 columns.  (So minimum for a block is 4, not in a "strip").

Block Types:
Any group of at least 4 as described above is a standard "Block".  That may be a "Block of 4", a "Block of 10 (2 x 5) a "Block of 12" (3 x 4 OR 2 x 6) -- you get the idea.

Then you have "Margin Blocks"
Margin blocks appear on some stamps, and they are blocks which show either a horizontal or a vertical "guide line" which was used in lining the sheet up for perforation, or for imperforate sheets, where to cut.

"Center Line Blocks" are very attractive to many collectors, because there is only 1 per page.  It is where the Vertical and Horizontal guidelines cross, at the center of the sheet.  So there can only be 1 "Center Line Block" on any sheet of stamps.  Where you may be able to get 4 or 8 horizontal or vertical margin or "guideline" blocks out of them.

There are also sometimes "Arrow Blocks" on some stamps, which will have a selvage margin, and diagonal lines that lead to the "guide line".  Not all sheets have these, but some plate block definitions can get specific about these.

Then there are "Plate Blocks".  This area is sometimes confusing to collectors, because plate block sizes can vary, and in order to be officially a "Plate Block" of a particular type, it MUST meet all the criteria.  About 80% of "Plate Blocks" will be 4 stamps with either left, right, top or bottom outer selvage attached and the PLATE number visible on printed on the attached selvage.  However, some block definitions are rather complex, and my require 6 or 8 stamps in a particular arrangement in order to qualify as a "Plate Block" of that stamp issue.  In some cases as well, larger blocks are also recognized, like in the case of Scott #703 which recognizes Plate Blocks of 4, 6 and 8.  (With increasing value).

Now, your block, is just a block of 4, which does have selvage attached still.  By "book value" definition, it's just a block of 4, appears never hinged.  A block of 4 C22 Never Hinged has a catalog value of \$45.

For the C22 to qualify as a Plate Block, it must have 6 stamps attached 2 x 3 or 3 x 2 with the selvage attached and a printed plate block number.  That would have a catalog value of \$90.

BUT... this one is special.  SCOTT catalog notes that "‭Wide full selvage top margin plate blocks of No. C22 are extremely scarce and sell for \$1,750 or more."

So what you would need there are 3 x 2 (3 wide x 2 deep) with full selvage attached at the TOP margin of the stamp (Plate # in the center).

For blocks, the Scott Specialized Catalog is a must have, as it has extensive information about blocks that can't be found elsewhere.
Hope that helps,
Scott
Questioner's Rating
 Rating(1-10) Knowledgeability = 10 Clarity of Response = 10 Politeness = 10 Comment Thanks so much, Scott! Again, very helpful.

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#### Scott Payton

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