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About Deran McKean
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I am a 35 year fan of all the incarnations of Star Trek from the original show to the newer incarnations, to the books, comics and toys. I can answer most questions regarding the storylines and characters including their non-screen histories.

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Thirty-five years of collecting Star Trek merchandise, pouring over the books, comics and attending a number of conventions

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I have a Bachelor's Degree in Sociology and an MBA

 
   

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Topic: Star Trek: The Next Generation



Expert: Deran McKean
Date: 7/8/2008
Subject: energy creatures

Question
QUESTION: Could the Krenim temporal weapon erase energy creatures out of existence?

Could an Ocampa throw an energy creature to the floor using his mental abilities?

I liken the Mask's abilities to that of the enhanced Mitchell and Evans from TOS. Both showed near-Q abilities, and the Mask also showed the ability to apparently bring things from nothing and defy the laws of physics in other ways.

Mitchell and Evans were both 'defeated,' or shown to be fallible, so I guess the same line of reasoning would extend to the Mask.


Is there any non-magical being that you know of which could defeat Superman, based only on strength, cunning, intelligence, etc.? "Magical" beings include beings that use mental abilities such as the Q, Douwd, etc.

ANSWER: Hi John -

I think the Krenim temporal weapon would be effective against most energy creatures as most appear to be as bound by the laws of linear time as flesh and blood creatures.  Against beings like the Prophets (who are not bound by linear time) the Krenim temporal weapon might not be as effective, but against those that are subject to such constraints, I believe it would.

I think an Ocampa that is practiced in the use of their abilities could affect an energy creature.  I can see two ways this could be accomplished:  First, mentally affecting the energy creature's mind and making them throw themselves to the ground, or generating a sufficient enough signal from the Ocampan mind that it causes a disruption in the energy creature's matrix, thus physically forcing it to the ground.

I agree with your reasoning about the Mask. Though he appeared immensely powerful, he still has a human mind and certain thought processes that can be exploited.

That is an interesting question about Superman!  The answer is yes!  In Batman #612 (Part of the "Hush" storyline) Superman is 'defeated' by Batman of all people!

At the time Supes is under the control of Poison Ivy.  Batman lures him into the sewer tunnels beneath Metropolis, where the Kryptonian's x-ray vision is useless.  In addition the tunnels are filled with natural gas, so Superman doesn't dare use his heat vision, lest he blow up half of his favorite city.

Because the tunnels are so twisty, Supes' ability to use his super speed is limited.  Eventually he does catch Batman however, at which point Bats pulls out a kryptonite ring and punches the Man-of-Steel in the face!

Now Batman knows that, eventually Supes will overpower him, so while he keeps the Kryptonian distracted, Batman has Catwoman kidnap Lois Lane to use as a hostage against her husband.

So, even though a lot of fans believe Batman 'cheated' he was able to control the Man-of-Steel.

The Parasite is also a DC Comics villain with the power to absorb superhuman abilities from others and has constantly plagued Superman even though Parasite’s powers are scientific rather than magical.

Darkseid (from the New Gods) and his son Orion have on many occasions proven to be nearly as strong as the Man-of-Steel and he has been forced to out think them rather than rely on his immense strength to defeat them both.  

In addition General Zod (from the Phantom Zone) is the equal of Superman in strength and has given the Man-of-Steel a run for his money on more than one occasion.

Hope that helps, keep those questions coming!

Deran


---------- FOLLOW-UP ----------

QUESTION: If a Krenim ship were trapped in the void, could they kill Nagilum, or is he too powerful (he is apparently bound by time).

Could an Ocampa trapped in the void force Nagilum to free his ship, or is Nagilum's mind much too powerful?

Data vs. Batman (with belt)
Data vs. Batman (no belt)
Data vs. Spiderman

Answer
Hi John

I don't know if the Krenim ship could outright 'kill' Nagilum, but they might be able to use their temporal weapon to either erase his existence entirely, or attack him when he first began to form his void at which point (I assume) he would be more vulnerable.  It's kind of six of one, half dozen of another as far as Nagilum is concerned as he would still be dead, but those are my thoughts.

My guess is that Nagilum's mind is so different from the humanoid norm that an Ocampa would not be able to affect him.  If would be analogous to the time Spock tried to mind meld with the Kelvan.  Nagilum's mind would be unaffected.

In the comics I've read I've seen Batman outsmart Superman, Darkseid and Lex Luthor.  The Dark Knight is generally regarded as one of the smartest individuals in the DC universe and is an expert on chemicals, weaponry, self defense and misdirection.  If he and Data were in a situation such as Kirk and the Gorn were in the TOS episode 'Arena' I would bet on Batman.

Even though the Gorn was stronger and comparatively better armed than Captain Kirk, the Starfleet officer fashioned a makeshift 'gun' from available materials and managed to take out his opponent.

With or without his belt I would think Batman could come up with a similar solution, using whatever his environment had to offer.  Now, of course, in a straight physical fight between the two Data has much greater strength and speed and, even though Batman is a martial arts master, I doubt he could effectively subdue the android.  

Data vs. Spiderman is a toughie hmmmmmm.......

The only real advantage I can see that Spiderman would have in that type of conflict is his agility and ability to 'jump' around.  While Data has great speed and dexterity, he hasn't shown any real acrobatic coordination.

In the movie ST: Nemesis he managed to outmaneuver several Starfleet and Son'a personnel chasing him, but his movements were pretty basic and somewhat mechanical.

If Spiderman could somehow 'bounce around' Data and entrap him in his webbing, he might be able to hit Data's off switch before the android could break free.  

We've seen Spidey's webbing hold up trucks and multiple people at the same time, so the material it's made out of must be strong stuff.  I would imagine it could entrap Data long enough for Spidey to do the Starfleet officer some damage, but he would have to move pretty fast.

I would assume both are relatively equal in terms of tactical training as Data has a photographic memory and Starfleet experience, whereas Spidey is mostly self taught, but has loads of experience against various super villains.  

If I had to bet on one or the other I'd put my money on Spidey, but would do reluctantly.

Hope that helps

Deran


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