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Sublime - pawn shop/smoke 2 joints


Expert: Matt Maguire - 9/15/2009

Question
are these 2 songs really covers? i was sad to learn that 2 of my favorite sublime songs apparently are not their own material... please say it ain't so! and if it is so, whose songs are they originally?

thanks so much :)

Answer
Haley,

I'm afraid I can't give you that news.  Both are STRAIGHT covers.  Annndd...What I Got is also a partial cover.

Both are on my 102 track album Rewind Selector that comes with a text supplement with hundred more direct influences.  I've been working on the album for just about 10 years, recently with the assistance of Vincent Cassetta (another AllExperts Sublime guru).

I invite you to check out the full album by e-mailing me for details: mdmaguirespam AT comcast DOT net, but in the meantime, here's the info you requested and the songs to prove it.

War Deh Round a John Shop (Wailing Souls)
Check the transition at 3:40 on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22fGYmtExjk

Smoke 2 Joints (The Toyes)
Check the transition at 1:30 on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyc6qihnyMA
Remember: if you listen to the Thanks Dub on 40oz -- "And when we did 'Smoke 2 Joints' that was jacked from the Toyes."

Don't despair!  This isn't unique to Sublime and is commonplace for Reggae music.  Sublime definitely made these tracks their own.  Read Rewind Selector to understand their musical understanding more thoroughly.

Here's a letter from Brad Nowell to The Toyes:

Dear Maug -

Thanx for your letter of Aug 30. It's been over a decade since I first heard your song "Smoke 2 Joints" on K-ROQ in L.A. I dug the tune but then they stoped playin' it so I've only heard it once or twice since then. We jammed the tune when Sublime hooked up in 88. I had to fake it cuz I barely remembered how it went. In the studio, we fucked w/ it and dropped some turntables on there & just generally faked it! I've heard the original since then and I was trippin' cuz the drums are all roots (one drop) style & ours is "strait forward" with the emphasis on the snair drum! I think ours might be a tad faster too. Whatever. It's a trip, our "Smoke 2" version was the first Sublime recording I ever heard on the radio. It was on a Sunday afternoon reggae program on KPFK (college station). I thought we were the shit after that, full rock stars! I think the guy played it a couple of times; then I never heard Sublime on the radio untill Date Rape five years later. Anyways, thanx for being cool about the tune, use any Sublime songs you guys want to, no worries!! By the way, when KROQ first put "Smoke 2" in rotation, they always said: "That was the Toyes from Hawaii". What's up w/that? Thanx for writing and clearing up the confusion about the song. I was wondering if you and your brother still play live or if you are in other bands and if you still jam "reggae". Maybe we could rock out together next time we are up in Oregon (which will be the middle of next month - October). I'm looking forward to sharing some of that super Oregon green w/y'all. Sorry this letter got so long, I'm stoned to the bone at the moment. The main thing I wanted to say was thanx for being cool too about the "were only gonna die" (I always thought it was called "EARLY MAN"!) cover we did on 40 oz. Everybody else that we covered, or in some instances sampled, demanded mass cash or, as w/"RAW HIDE", said we strait up can't use their shit and must take it off the album or else face some funky law suit. I get the feeling that most of this publishing shit is handled by some fucker in a suit and air conditioned office. I doubt the musicians ever even know what's up. Kinda makes ya wanna just go burn the fern, eh vern? Got any? Musicians gotta stick together and stick it to the corporate pig useless shitbag fucks who can all suck my ass. Sorry, just has to get that off my chest! Anywho, I hope to hook up in the future; if you feel like it call me/leave message at 310 *** ****/310 *** **** or fax me at 310 *** ****.

Peace (heart drawing) Bradley singer/songwriter/guitarist "Sublime"


I hope that answers things for you and look forward to hearing from you regarding Rewind Selector.

Matt

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