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About Colin Murray
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Expertise
I can answer about trombone equipment (instruments, mouthpieces, used horns, etc) and trombone (especially bass trombone) playing. If I don't know right away, I have an extensive network of experts to call on. I can't help you get a date.

Experience
25 years as professional bass trombonist (playing in big bands,orchestras, theatre, etc), 20 years as brass repair technician and retail and wholesale sales. Bass trombone instructor at Humber College, Toronto. Creator of website www.mrequipment.net - all about brass and woodwind gear and the people behind it.

Organizations
National Association of Music Merchants, American Federation of Musicians, International Trombone Association

Education/Credentials
B.Mus, L.Mus (Performance) McGill University, Montreal

   

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Questions Answered By Expert  Colin Murray 
In Category  Trombone

SubjectDate Asked

old Conn 88H9/24/2008
  Q: I'm looking to sell my Conn 88H (SN K61409, circa 1967). It merely needs some TLC and the lacquer is ...
  A: Yes, I got the photos on the 12th and replied that day, but your service provider seems to want an ...
Olds Bass Trombone9/18/2008
  Q: I was recently given a beautifully restored bass trombone. I am desperately trying to find out what ...
  A: Judging by your description and looking at a 1957 Olds catalog, my guess would be it's an S20 Super ...
trombone9/18/2008
  Q: My son has never picked up a trombone in his life & wants to learn. I am looking at at Titan ...
  A: I've never heard of a Titan brand trombone and I suspect it's a Chinese-made horn. Some Chinese-made ...
CONN Trombone9/15/2008
  Q: I just recently aquired a CONN Trombone, but it is very worn and scratched. I am not sure of the ...
  A: If it's a Conn trombone with a K serial number, you should be able to see the model number and ...
Olds Recording Trombone Value9/15/2008
  Q: I am considering selling my Olds Recording Trombone w/F attachment. Serial 340046. I purchased new ...
  A: Apart from Ebay, you can try other online ad services like Craigslist or Kijiji. This way, if ...
flats9/9/2008
  Q: What notes on a trombone are typically flat and sharp. So you have to pull in or push out of ...
  A: It's best to think in terms of the harmonic series and partials to figure this out. Take, for ...
Bach model 89/9/2008
  Q: I have a Bach Model 8 which I bought new in 1997. It is in good condition, with a few scratches on ...
  A: The Bach 8 (regular or lightweight slide?) would sell for the same price as a 12 or 16, so look for ...
Conn 32 H Trombone-19359/7/2008
  Q: I just picked up a 1935 Conn 32 H. I am interested in any history on that model, other than what is ...
  A: You may try the National Music Museum at the University of South Dakota (http://www.usd.edu/smm/). ...
used trombone ratings9/7/2008
  Q: My son is a freshman in HS this year. He is a 4th year player, still using his original Olds ...
  A: It may be difficult to find a good Bach 42B or Conn 88H under $1000, but I did see a couple of ...
Conn trombone9/6/2008
  Q: Hey, it's Ron again. I was searching around on eBay, and found a used Conn trombone. The seller ...
  A: It looks like a 4H to me. Unless this 4H is a one-off custom model, it should have a 7" bell, and a ...
old Conn 88H9/6/2008
  Q: I'm looking to sell my Conn 88H (SN K61409, circa 1967). It merely needs some TLC and the lacquer is ...
  A: I don't really see a question here, so I'll assume you're wanting to know what it may be worth. Some ...
trombone water key9/6/2008
  Q: I'm just getting the trombone I've only had it for two days and I was wondering what the water key ...
  A: Welcome to the world of trombone! The water key (also known as the condensation key or "spit ...
conn trombone9/5/2008
  Q: I recently came across a conn trombone. It has the silvery gray round thing that says conn. It ...
  A: What you have is indeed a 16H "Director" model made in May of 1977. It was made in Abilene, Texas, ...
trombone9/5/2008
  Q: My son is starting the begining band this year. He wants to play the trumpet. His father also played ...
  A: If he's really determined to play the trumpet, he'll find a way. On the other hand, if he's willing ...
trombone9/5/2008
  Q: My son is starting the begining band this year. He wants to play the trumpet. His father also played ...
  A: At the risk of alienating the band instructor (or you), let me offer my opinion. I believe the ...
TR 169 Bass Trombone9/1/2008
  Q: I have a Kleinhammer model Holton TR 169 double valve Bass Trombone. I was curious as to the year it ...
  A: I'd be afraid of the D slide as it is on Jeff Reynold's CD- it definitely wouldn't work in a big ...
TR 169 Bass Trombone8/30/2008
  Q: I have a Kleinhammer model Holton TR 169 double valve Bass Trombone. I was curious as to the year it ...
  A: First of all, lucky you to have one of those horns! It was made in 1965. I'd love to see a photo ...
valve section8/29/2008
  Q: I'm thinking of switching from trumpet to valve trombone. Just so happens I have an old King 2B and ...
  A: King still makes a 3B valve trombone (model 2166) so you should be able to order a valve section ...
trombone elkhart band inst co8/28/2008
  Q: We have a trombone and we are deciding if it is worth "fixing" for our son. It has a heart with an ...
  A: The Elkhart Band instrument company was around in the early 20th century and was merged with the ...
Bach Omega Trombone8/27/2008
  Q: Want to sell it. #61141 on it. No idea of its value...can you help ANSWER: Hi Gerry, The Bach ...
  A: By "public ads" I assume you're talking about Craigslist and Kijiji. If not, try them! If that ...
TB200 or TB3008/26/2008
  Q: Colin - YOu have great trombone knowledge so here is another question for you... How can I tell the ...
  A: Here's a TB200 in its case: http://images.wwbw.com/products/extra/Bach/22328_338506.jpg If you have ...
Bach trombone oldie, a goodie???8/26/2008
  Q: how can i tell the model and style of the trombone? The serial number is B30878, which is 1978? I ...
  A: As a rule, unless a dent decreases the diameter of a tube by more than 25%, it probably won't make a ...
Restoring/cleaning a vintage silver trombone8/24/2008
  Q: I recently acquired an old Silver trombone, mouthpiece is marked Vincent Bach, bell is stamped with ...
  A: Since you can use any mouthpiece with just about any trombone, the trombone you have is not ...
Bach Omega Trombone8/23/2008
  Q: Want to sell it. #61141 on it. No idea of its value...can you help
  A: The Bach Omega was limited-edition trombone sold to selected Bach dealers (it's now discontinued). ...
Trombone Value8/21/2008
  Q: I would like to sell my husband's trombone but have no idea what the value is. It is a Bach USA ...
  A: Without seeing it, based on your description, I'd say it's a Bach TB200, their intermediate model. ...
Trombone Mouthpieces8/19/2008
  Q: what is the difference between a 5g mouthpiece and a 5
  A: The Bach 5 and 5G both have the same cup diameter and rim shape (supposedly), but the 5G has a ...
Conn8/17/2008
  Q: First, I'm also a Murray! Now, I have a Conn I bought used in 1962. It was estimated to be about ...
  A: Always good to hear from another member of the clan! And also good to know you're getting back to ...
FE Olds & Son Trombone8/15/2008
  Q: I have an Olds trombone that I am trying to determine the approximate value of. On the bell it says ...
  A: Your trombone was probably made around 1956-57, and retailed for $195 at that time. The Studio ...
Date manufactured8/14/2008
  Q: I have a Super Olds B flat,gold bell, silver slide horn with a number of 13107. Would you know ...
  A: According to the website "Olds Central", that trombone was made around 1940-41. I'm assuming you ...
Bach trombone oldie, a goodie???8/14/2008
  Q: how can i tell the model and style of the trombone? The serial number is B30878, which is 1978? I ...
  A: If the serial number didn't have a "B" before the numbers, it was made in 1978, but this isn't the ...
Bach Trombone Model?8/3/2008
  Q: My son wants to sell his trombone. I need to know the model and type. It has Bach USA on the bell ...
  A: I would guess you have a Bach TB300, which is their student model trombone. Look on the bell section ...
King Trombone8/3/2008
  Q: I'm going to be a senior in high school this year, and im looking to buy a new horn since i'll be ...
  A: I would suggest looking at a Conn 6H or 48H- there are a number of them on Ebay right now and they ...
Frank Holten "Special" Trombone8/2/2008
  Q: I played a Frank Holten "Special Trombone in the early 50's. The Pat. # is 10-27-03 and the number ...
  A: Your trombone was built around 1913. The extra 'attachment" you're referring to is the extra tuning ...
antique Trombone- Holton8/2/2008
  Q: I have a 1926 Holton presentation model trombone made for and presented to R H Leissman by Frank ...
  A: According to serial number lists, that trombone was made in 1932. I wouldn't want to give it a ...
Nova Trombone7/25/2008
  Q: I recently purchased a vintage Nova Los Angeles Tenor Trombone. It looks to be a 1940's or 1950's ...
  A: I've seen the Nova name on stencil horns made in Germany or Czechslovakia, but never anything marked ...
new inner slides?7/23/2008
  Q: I have a Conn 48H "Constellation" I purchased new in 1962. The horn is in excellent condition ...
  A: Yes, it's definitely worth replacing the inner slide tubes. The good news is that since the 48H has ...
Selmer Trombone7/23/2008
  Q: Slide has engraved-K-MODIFIED- Special-23-3352 logo-made in france.I can send a photo to your email. ...
  A: Selmer K-Modified trombones aren't that common, but they're not that valuable either. One in pretty ...
Age and value of Olds Custom P-167/19/2008
  Q: I have and Olds P-16 Custom trombone that I'm trying to sell, but I don't know how to value it. On ...
  A: The P-16 you have was made in early 1978 in the last days of the Olds brand. It was their ...
can't find information on trombone I purchased7/17/2008
  Q: I just purchase a trombone from a mental hospital auction. It has DAV HAN, made in france, 35305 ...
  A: It would appear the name you furnished is incomplete. If you could forward a photo of the bell ...
Trombone7/17/2008
  Q: I am a very active and very good Trombone player. As you know Trombone is on the bass clef. Recently ...
  A: Learning to read treble clef won't hurt your trombone playing at all, though you may lose a few ...
CG Conn trombone7/15/2008
  Q: I have an old B flat tenor CONN Trombone with the first 3 of the serial being 319. All of the ...
  A: For more info on the Conn 24H, click on this ...
CG Conn trombone7/15/2008
  Q: I have an old B flat tenor CONN Trombone with the first 3 of the serial being 319. All of the ...
  A: If your trombone's serial number is six digits starting with 319..., it was probably made in 1947. ...
F.E. Olds Trombone7/13/2008
  Q: I found my late dad's trombone this week while cleaning up my parents house- what a thrill! It ...
  A: The Ambassador was Olds' student line instrument, and was introduced (supposedly) around 1948. The ...
Replating inner slides7/3/2008
  Q: The plating of the inner slides of my old Conn 32H is worn. Is replating a good alternative or do I ...
  A: It's very difficult to successfully replate slide tubes. First, you have to remove the old plating, ...
slide repair6/28/2008
  Q: Hello I have a trombone that has a dent in the outer slide and I would like to know can I go to an ...
  A: The short answer is, not likely. To repair a dent in a slide tube, you need a hard steel rod that is ...
TROMBONE6/27/2008
  Q: I HAVE A RICHARDS MUSIC COPR TROMBONE MODEL# T053 SERIAL#213912 WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT IT?
  A: If it says J.G. Richards Co. on it, then it came from a Cleveland music store in operation in the ...
student rombone6/19/2008
  Q: Background: My son (4th grade) just finished his first year of trombone playing snd seems to like ...
  A: Ebay MAY be cheaper, but unless you know exactly what you're looking for and/or the trombone is ...
Bach Strad Trombone Age6/15/2008
  Q: I have a Bach Stradivarius 36BO Trombone I bought from a music mart a few years ago used. I was just ...
  A: Bach has only published official serial number lists until 1994, where they reach 119000. I would ...
Yamaha YSL-356R6/6/2008
  Q: Is there a website or any other way to see Yamaha serial number lists? I'm trying to find the date ...
  A: Yamaha serial number lists aren't published as far as I can tell, but I may be able to find out for ...
holton trumet case hardware6/1/2008
  Q: I have acquired a Holton Galaxy without the case. I will be making a custom hardwood case to the ...
  A: You'll have a hard time matching the hardware for a thirty-year-old case, but you may get close. Try ...
trombone case5/28/2008
  Q: Whats the best lightweight case that would fit a Bach 42BO? Would a protec be the best bet? I want ...
  A: The large Softone mute (model 188L) is what you want. You can get more information on using the mute ...
tone improvement5/27/2008
  Q: I was wondering what were some practicing tips that could help me improve the tone of my higher ...
  A: It could be that you're changing your embouchure at that point (the A natural), and/or it's the ...
which used trombone for....5/23/2008
  Q: I play trombone for fun in the horn section of a rock/rhythm&blues band--occasional solos. I have ...
  A: If you're happy with how your Olds Special plays, you may want to look at a similarly-sized trombone ...
trading up5/23/2008
  Q: My son has played for 4 years on a Bach TB300 and will be moving into HS. He would like a trombone ...
  A: For a trombonist at your son's stage of the game, I'd go with the YSL684G. Although it's been ...
hn white trombone mouthpiece5/22/2008
  Q: Do you know what mouthpiece(s) the old hn white co.supposedly matched to their 2b and/or 3b ...
  A: According to a 1938 H.N. White King 2B ad ...
Olds three piece trombone5/20/2008
  Q: Back in the 60's I purchased a used three piece (bell, slide and valves) Olds trombone and had it ...
  A: The number you gave is not the serial number. You can find the serial number on the slide, usually ...
F valve5/17/2008
  Q: I have an old King large bore tenor with the trigger above the thumb cross member. I am hoping to ...
  A: I'm having trouble picturing what you mean by the "trigger above the thumb cross member.". Are you ...
Model Number5/17/2008
  Q: I am selling my trombone on e bay. I have a customer interested in it. And he or she wants to know ...
  A: If your trombone is a Bach Stradivarius, it will say "Stradivarius" on the bell near the "Vincent ...
Mouthpiece5/14/2008
  Q: I have a concern hope you can help me about this. What makes a mouthpiece produce a thicker/richer ...
  A: If you're looking for a bigger sound, you have to increase the inside diameter of the mouthpiece to ...
A L Almont trombone mouthpiece5/12/2008
  Q: I am trying to find out more about when these mouthpieces were made & if all of them were sterling ...
  A: I probably know about as much as you do about Albert Almont mouthpieces. They were made in the ...
trombone case5/8/2008
  Q: Whats the best lightweight case that would fit a Bach 42BO? Would a protec be the best bet? I want ...
  A: The three things you should be looking at are protection, weight and the price. There are a lot of ...
Granfathers trombone!5/5/2008
  Q: We have in our family a trombone that was brought back from America by my great grandfather during ...
  A: The model of the trombone you have is the 3H, which was discontinued in 1929. Your trombone was made ...
F.E. Olds Trombone5/2/2008
  Q: I have an Olds trombone that my parents purchased for me in 1951 when I was in the high school ...
  A: My best guess it was made in 1936, based on some "extrapolated" serial number lists. (Lists earlier ...
common tone problems and solutions5/2/2008
  Q: If all the criteria are being met to produce a good tone on the trombone, but a good tone isn't ...
  A: Interesting question. Obviously, if all the criteria were being met to produce a good tone, then ...
Elkhart trombone4/29/2008
  Q: I have a trombone and I have absolutely no idea how old it is or anything else, and it is driving me ...
  A: If you go to the link I gave you and click on "Kenton", you'll be asked to register on the website, ...
Good Beginner Trombone4/28/2008
  Q: I have been playing baritone/euphonium for roughly 11 years now, and currently use a Besson ...
  A: Within your budget of 350 GBP, you should be able to get a good student model trombone or a used ...
Good Beginner Trombone4/27/2008
  Q: I have been playing baritone/euphonium for roughly 11 years now, and currently use a Besson ...
  A: If you've been playing euphonium for 11 years already, and you're currently playing a ...
Elkhart trombone4/26/2008
  Q: I have a trombone and I have absolutely no idea how old it is or anything else, and it is driving me ...
  A: I got to you as soon as I possibly could- just take a few deep breaths... According to the ...
trombone serial number4/25/2008
  Q: Someone gave me an old trombone for my daughter. She has been playing for 5 years and she has a ...
  A: The Olds Ambassador was their student model trombone. It wasn't a bad student horn, but not nearly ...
5G mouthpiece4/22/2008
  Q: What's the difference between a 5G and a 5GS mouthpiece?
  A: The 5GS has a slightly shallower cup, smaller bore (throat) and backbore than the 5G. If you're ...
Buescher Trombone4/19/2008
  Q: I have a Buescher trombone, in good/playable condition, which has the serial number #269798. It is ...
  A: According to serial number lists, your trombone was made in 1935. Ferdinand A. Buescher had worked ...
B&S tbones4/17/2008
  Q: How are B&S tbones? I usually play bass bone and am on a limited budget and need something blatty ...
  A: The newer B&S trombones are quite good (those made in the last five years). I haven't seen too many ...
F E OLDS4/15/2008
  Q: I'm looking for a trombone for my son. I think I'd rather buy an old one from a great firm, then the ...
  A: Bonjour Frederique, It's true that F.E. Olds made some great trombones, but I don't think I'd ...
choosing trombone model4/15/2008
  Q: I know you get this a lot but I'm asking more about the brand than the models, I'm in college in ...
  A: Any of the horns you mentioned would be a good choice. Here's the skinny on older Conns and Bachs vs ...
1975 King Trombone 1403 3-B concert4/13/2008
  Q: I have a 1403-S(?) entirely Silver King Trombone purchased in 1975. It has been in storage since ...
  A: I think it may be a question of a hyphen, unfortunately. The 1403S was the 3-B Silversonic, but I ...
Trombone History Pt.II4/12/2008
  Q: My apologies for the previous e-mail not having serial numbers. I my haste to learn more, I failed ...
  A: I'm willing to bet you mean "H.N. White", not "H.N. Smith" on the bell of that trombone. If it is ...
about my trombone4/4/2008
  Q: I just bought a used trombone and like more information about it. It says Artist Elkhart Indiana on ...
  A: Check carefully between "Artist" and "Elkhart, Indiana" on the bell for something like ...
about my trombone4/4/2008
  Q: I just bought a used trombone and like more information about it. It says Artist Elkhart Indiana on ...
  A: It could be a Conn trombone. Does the "Artist" engraving appear on the front or the side of the ...

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