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Hi David
Would you know a rough value of a violin bow branded RENAUDIN PARIS?
Were these a production line of Eugene Cuniot-Hury? I can't find much about them. I guess I don't understand why Eugene Cuniot-Hury would use the name RENAUDIN. If you have any ideas, I would appreciate hearing them.
Thank you so much for your time !

Regards
John

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Hi John

I will try to give you some information that I have pieced together but as I stated in my bio, every appraiser can't know every makers work and alas I have not seen one of these bows.

Eugene Cuniot (Hury was his wife's name)worked in Mirecourt France in the late 1800 - early 1900's. He was a professional bow maker and copied many of the great makers. I have no knowledge of him specifically stamping any bows Renaudin Paris.

There were five makers with the name Renaudin. One was a bow maker.

The bow maker worked in Mirecourt and stamped his bows simply Renaudin.
Three of the violin makers worked in Mirecourt and Leopold worked in Paris for most of his time although he was born in Mirecourt.

Obviously without a close up examination of the bow by someone that knows his work, it is hard to say if it is by him. As it says Paris on it, my assumption is that the Paris shop ordered bows from some source, probably Mirecourt as that was where most of the instruments and bows in bulk were produced and simply stamped them with his name and location. He also may have purchased it from an unnamed local source and created a "brand" so to speak.

Almost as long as violins and bows have been made, copies have existed. Not just good copies but commercial products that were simply marked with the name. Much of this was done to denote model but some was done for deception purposes. Just think how many hundreds of thousands of instruments are labeled Stradivari.

So if it was sold by Cuniot, it could be just an import that he marked with his shop name. Almost any violin shop you go into today has a shop brand instrument that was not made in their shop. Many shops use the name of their shop, a name of a well known maker or simply a made up name.

A few of the Renaudin Paris stamped bows have sold at auction, they had plain ebony frogs mounted in Silver and sold in the $800-1200 range. No attribution was made.

On the internet I did find one shop in South Africa that claims a bow in their collection is made by Cuniot and stamped Renaudin Paris. I find it interesting that no one else has made this connection and so I don't put too much stock in it especially since I don't know Cuniot's work.

I'm sorry that I was unable to give you more information.

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I can answer questions on violin, viola, cello and bass making, repair and maintenance as well as supply general violin value ranges and information on instrument makers’ assuming the instrument's as labeled. I don't give values for modern makers as many of these modern makers are yet unknown to me. I can only give you feedback based on what information you give me, and no authority on the instrument can know every maker's work that ever lived. I have access to many books on makers and auction prices on over 25,000 makers, as well as having 36 years of experience with selling and appraising violins. Without having the instrument in hand, any estimate over the internet is just a guess as the label inside an instrument is more often wrong than right, so just having that information is not very useful. Pictures can sometimes be helpful but only so much, as the "feel" of the instrument along with small clues in workmanship and varnish cannot be seen in pictures. Any pictures should be high quality close-ups of the top and back. Additional photos of the front and treble side of the neck are also useful. It is always best to have an instrument seen in person at a violin shop that does appraisals. I can also provide advice on bows, rosin, strings and other string instrument accessories. As I am now retired, I have no bias towards selling anything; I only wish to share my knowledge and experience by providing information for those that may be getting confused by misinformation, misdirection or conflicting statements. (While I have seen many thousands of instruments and have performed numerous appraisals; if I have not evaluated an instrument in person, any information I set forth in an opinion is just that, an opinion based solely on what you have provided. Thusly, no financial decision should be based on that opinion, but rather, further investigation should be performed by having the instrument examined in person.)

Experience

I am a retired violin maker and repairman with 35 years experience having worked in Chicago and Maryland at 5 different violin shops and music stores including the first violin repairman at William Harris Lee in Chicago, the head repairman at Weavers Violins in Maryland, and in my own shop of 25 years. I have made 160 instruments and have restored countless professional level and student grade instruments. I am an accomplished violinist having performed with semi-professional as well as amateur groups although I haven't played for years and mostly stay away from questions about playing. I have taught violin making and restoration to about 20 students; three of which have gone on professionally and now have their own shops. I know violins from playing, selling, repairing, making and teaching.

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Violin Society of America (VSA). American String Teachers Association (ASTA)

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I graduated from the prestigious 4 year Chicago School of Violin Making in 1981 under Master Violin Maker Tschu Ho Lee. I also studied with violin maker Willis M. Gault in Washington DC from 1973-75, who was the former owner of the oldest known example of an instrument from the modern violin family, an Andreas Amati Viola.

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2008 Chester Petranek Award for service to the music community. ASTA award for service. Top All Expert in Violin for 2014 and 2015.

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I have worked with many professional musicians from DC area Symphonies as well as players from all over the US. Here are just a few, Leonard Slatkin - Former conductor of the National Symphony Orchestra. Doris Gazda - Nationally renowned string specialist and composer. Bernard Greenhouse, Tanya Anisimova - Internationally renowned Solo Cellists. Jody Gatwood, Mark Pfannschmidt, Lori Barnet, Doug Dubé, Judy Silverman - National Philharmonic Orchestra. Robert Blatt, David Hardy, Glen Garlick - National Symphony Orchestra. Eddie Stubbs, Brendan Mulvahill, Nate Leath - Professional Fiddle Players. David Basche, Pat Braunlich, John Knudson, Romano Solano, Ed Ferris, Fred Lieder - freelance musicians.

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