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Violin/1908 Neuner & Hornstiner - Mittenwald (Baiern)


I recently acquired this aforementioned Violin at a store sale. It has a few small hairline cracks. I am mainly a guitarist, and also play mandolin and 5-string Banjo. It has a very nice tone when plucked. This violin was playerd a lot. There was no bow in the case which seems original with metal latches (very old case). The back is 35 cm. The f-hole and scroll back and sides are in good condition. The top has the few hairlines. I would say it is in good condition. I have a 1971 Martin D 28S Guitar since new and know tone and enjoy fine acoustic instruments. I have read your background and know you could tell me if there is any possibility that this violin was a beginner's violin or one that might have been used by someone advanced. II know that the chance that it has a high agree of worth is pretty remote but if you might have a ballpark idea if it is a good one, I would appreciate it very much for some help here.

Hi Bernie

The N & H firm had a long history, even after the passing of it's founders. There were also many grades of the instruments worth anywhere from a few hundred dollars to several thousand. Before you worry about the value, I would have it looked at as far as the cracks go. Even if the only look hairline to you, they could be much more serious depending on the location. There have been some instruments that have been labeled as such but are instead copies. I would be glad to look at photos to get you a rough idea of it's potential, but an in person evaluation will be needed to narrow it down and to look at the condition. You can send me as many as you would like directly to  I will tell you that  if yours is a real N & H, it was made after the company passed to the son in 1904.  


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I can answer questions on violin, viola, cello and bass making, repair and maintenance as well as supply general violin value ranges and information on instrument makers’ assuming the instrument's as labeled. I don't give values for modern makers as many of these modern makers are yet unknown to me. I can only give you feedback based on what information you give me, and no authority on the instrument can know every maker's work that ever lived. I have access to many books on makers and auction prices on over 25,000 makers, as well as having 36 years of experience with selling and appraising violins. Without having the instrument in hand, any estimate over the internet is just a guess as the label inside an instrument is more often wrong than right, so just having that information is not very useful. Pictures can sometimes be helpful but only so much, as the "feel" of the instrument along with small clues in workmanship and varnish cannot be seen in pictures. Any pictures should be high quality close-ups of the top and back. Additional photos of the front and treble side of the neck are also useful. It is always best to have an instrument seen in person at a violin shop that does appraisals. I can also provide advice on bows, rosin, strings and other string instrument accessories. As I am now retired, I have no bias towards selling anything; I only wish to share my knowledge and experience by providing information for those that may be getting confused by misinformation, misdirection or conflicting statements. (While I have seen many thousands of instruments and have performed numerous appraisals; if I have not evaluated an instrument in person, any information I set forth in an opinion is just that, an opinion based solely on what you have provided. Thusly, no financial decision should be based on that opinion, but rather, further investigation should be performed by having the instrument examined in person.)


I am a retired violin maker and repairman with 35 years experience having worked in Chicago and Maryland at 5 different violin shops and music stores including the first violin repairman at William Harris Lee in Chicago, the head repairman at Weavers Violins in Maryland, and in my own shop of 25 years. I have made 160 instruments and have restored countless professional level and student grade instruments. I am an accomplished violinist having performed with semi-professional as well as amateur groups although I haven't played for years and mostly stay away from questions about playing. I have taught violin making and restoration to about 20 students; three of which have gone on professionally and now have their own shops. I know violins from playing, selling, repairing, making and teaching.

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